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We now pause to thank the French, especially Louis XIV, for being so enamored with jeton-minting that it's quite easy (= cheap) to find one every year for Louis's reign.
1671 Chambre aux deniers, a common coin on eBay, snapped up by those who like bees. Hinc alitur cum rege domus = "all are fed while the King is at home" (yes, we know it's really the queen bee that leads the hive, but try telling the king that).
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Onward to 1673 now?
Well, here's another French jeton for 1673:
sufficit aeternum nec deficit = it is sufficient for eternity and will not be lacking (like the ocean...)
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I thought I'd submit my entry for the wordiest medal competition:
white metal, 42 mm. Chronology of the Kings of England [ending with Victoria 1837], neatly divided between pre- and post-Norman rule: William the Conqueror starts the list on the reverse.
It's signed W[illiam] J[ohn] Taylor 33 Little Queen St Holborn.
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Jeepers, that's a beautiful coin.
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Here's another 1677, a jeton from Charles II of Spain:
I got it because I liked the French phrase on the coin: GECTS [jetons] POVR LE BVREAU DES FINANCES...
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I'm chomping at the bit for a 1679 to show up so I can finally post my 1678.
Hate to see anyone chewing up their bit.
1679 jeton of Louis XIV: TEMPL PACIS. The king receives the tribute of three allegorical figures bearing palms. Probably made in Nuremberg.
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OK, I'll post another well-worn portrait of Louis XIV! Got to keep this going... I think Ian could probably do the 17th century all by himself, but he's trying to give everyone else a chance, and/or just doesn't want to be posting every day!
1680 jeton of Louis XIV -- "post bella triumphus" with Fame crowning someone in his war chariot, I don't know who; I haven't been able to find a catalogue description of this coin.
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Woot! I get consecutive Coinstar Reject Bin posts!
And the gist of my post this time is: WTF??!! I just picked up $3.68 in one scoop from the bin at the local grocery store!! 14 quarters, a dime, a nickel and 3 zincs. None of them dented or bent --why were they in the reject bin? And who the heck walks away from that much money? They must've had a big jar, dumped it in and had no idea. I would like to donate this windfall to the CP retirement fund.
Also with the coins: a 1971 British penny, two 5-centavo pieces from Mexico and a *black* aluminum token that says WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES on it.
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I really didn't want to post this one, since it's corroded and the date isn't clear. But if you look really hard, you can see it really is a 1685 : MDCLXXXV on the reverse. (And I know that this jeton is a 1685 from Feuardent's catalogue: 1685 Trésor Royal, F 1919.)
SUFFICIT NEC DEFICIT: "it is sufficient and never runs out" -- the Royal Treasury is likened to an inexhaustable fountain. Perhaps this was only wishful thinking, since Louis XIV's wars kept emptying the coffers...
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That is an awesome coin.
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Some people are just plain lucky -- two days ago I asked my wife to pick me up a six-pack of beer -- didn't go to the supermarket but 7-Eleven instead -- so while there she bought ONE scratch-off ticket for five bucks -- PENG-WIN it's called -- scratch off a 'palm-tree' and win 5 times the amount -- well, under a palm tree she scratched was $500!! $2500 for buying me beer! Not a bad deal.....................
Holey moley.
I just bought a few lottery tix at the grovery store, although I expect nothing as exciting as that. But I did find the stunning grand total of 95 cents in the Coinstar reject bin: 6 dimes, five nickels (including one that had obviously been down the dispose-all) and 10 zincolns. Nothing particularly collectable, but, hey, it makes me feel like I earned the gas money it took to drive to the store.
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Okay. I'm going to put my 1691 here, and if anyone still wants to post another 1692, hiho will go back and fix the order!~
1691 H (La Rochelle) demi-écu aux huit L of Louis XIV. Someone scratched poor Louis across the nose.
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Here's another 1692, a jeton from Bourgogne, with a reference to how Louis XIV, the Sun, will help Burgundy --the bent-over stalks of wheat-- rise anew. Someone also scratched a good "M" into it...
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc146/c...aresurgetre.jpg
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I think we were posting at the same time. I think on this thread, we need to keep up the momentum when we get it. On to more 1692's if anyone has more ..
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1693 jeton of Louis XIV, with an artist painting the king's portrait. No shortage of ego there.
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Definitely a tapeworm.
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1694 N (Montpellier) 1/4 écu of Louis XIV. (I've gotten lots of mileage out of this coin on CP!!!)
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I agree completely. In fact, now that i think about it, Peter III's pony tail, and those Big hairdoos of Anna, Elizabeth, and Catherine II, must have all been falsies. Not sure on Catherine I. She seems a bit less vanity concerned than the others.
The Russians were a bit late to the Baroque Party, but they sure did catch up fast ( due to Peter I's influence )
LOL. Once we get through the 1660's (going back), we might get to see a few jetons with Louis XIV's REAL hair, when he was a child, pre-wig. Ditto for Louis XIII before him, and then ... headlong into the hirsute Renaissance!! No wigs, just lots of hair!
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1696 French jeton, Parties Casuelles. "Utile damnum" refers to the need sometimes to do harm for the good of all --as in trimming away the lower branches on a tree trunk. How exactly this refers to fiscal policy I'm not sure.
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If it's not a Pau (cow) mintmark, but just a P mintmark (for Dijon) (I don't know why P was used for Dijon!), then there are more possibilities, some more common than others ...
1693 P 4 sols aux deux "L", a small coin (19 mm wide) with a very different design than the Pau coins
1693 P sol de 15 deniers with or without a fleur-de-lis countermark (22-25 mm wide), again very different design...
(these are common coins)
etc etc etc. I must admit, my curiosity is piqued! hope the photo will eventually show up!
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Does the coin look anything like this one?
This is a 1694 1/4 écu aux palmes of Louis XIV. It weighs 6.746 grams and is between 27 and 30 mm wide. If your piece is indeed from Pau (which would be a "cow" mintmark), and you think it was overstruck, then it could be one of the following, assuming it's a silver coin:
1693 1/12 écu aux palmes de France-Navarre-Béarn, quite small, 2.261 g and between 19 and 21 mm wide
1693 1/2 écu aux palmes de France-Navarre-Béarn, 13.544 grams and 32 to 35 mm wide
1693 écu aux palmes etc., 27.142 grams and 39 to 41 mm wide, quite a big coin
These last two I mention are quite rare, so I doubt it's one of them.
Or it could be a small coin, quite different from the design above, a sol de 15 deniers de France-Navarre-Béarn, only 1.85 g and betwee 21 and 23 mm wide.
...and a few other possibilities.
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1709 French jeton of the Galères with the hundred-headed dragon guarding the golden apple tree in the Garden of the Hesperides. Perhaps the dragon symbolized these galley ships, with their complement of prisoners, slaves and a few free men that Louis XIV didn't hesitate to use in his many wars. They were outlawed by the time of the French Revolution.
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Another jeton from Burgundy. 1715 of course is the year Louis XIV died an old man, and this jeton shows the moon "receiving its light from another", i.e., the regent ruling after the king's death.
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Ditto what bill and elverno said. beautiful coins.
So why does the city of Nancy figure a thistle so prominently on its coat of arms? just wondering...
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1669 jeton of Maria-Theresa, Queen of Louis XIV:
The Queen's role is likened to that of a magnifying glass to Louis the Sun King. Hinc splendor et ardor = "the light and warmth [comes] from elsewhere."