frank

The reference couldn't be more vague, could it? "a figure with attributes related to agricultural societies"' Does anyone know of any use in medals etc. of Oudiné's design (i.e., the Cérès head) before 1848? not I....

I really didn't want to post this one, since it's corroded and the date isn't clear. But if you look really hard, you can see it really is a 1685 : MDCLXXXV on the reverse. (And I know that this jeton is a 1685 from Feuardent's catalogue: 1685 Trésor Royal, F 1919.) SUFFICIT NEC DEFICIT: "it is sufficient and never runs out" -- the Royal Treasury is likened to an inexhaustable fountain. Perhaps this was only wishful thinking, since Louis XIV's wars kept emptying the coffers...

That is an awesome coin.

Holey moley. I just bought a few lottery tix at the grovery store, although I expect nothing as exciting as that. But I did find the stunning grand total of 95 cents in the Coinstar reject bin: 6 dimes, five nickels (including one that had obviously been down the dispose-all) and 10 zincolns. Nothing particularly collectable, but, hey, it makes me feel like I earned the gas money it took to drive to the store.

Okay. I'm going to put my 1691 here, and if anyone still wants to post another 1692, hiho will go back and fix the order!~ 1691 H (La Rochelle) demi-écu aux huit L of Louis XIV. Someone scratched poor Louis across the nose.

Here's another 1692, a jeton from Bourgogne, with a reference to how Louis XIV, the Sun, will help Burgundy --the bent-over stalks of wheat-- rise anew. Someone also scratched a good "M" into it... http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc146/c...aresurgetre.jpg

I think we were posting at the same time. I think on this thread, we need to keep up the momentum when we get it. On to more 1692's if anyone has more ..

1693 jeton of Louis XIV, with an artist painting the king's portrait. No shortage of ego there.

Definitely a tapeworm.

1694 N (Montpellier) 1/4 écu of Louis XIV. (I've gotten lots of mileage out of this coin on CP!!!)

LOL. Once we get through the 1660's (going back), we might get to see a few jetons with Louis XIV's REAL hair, when he was a child, pre-wig. Ditto for Louis XIII before him, and then ... headlong into the hirsute Renaissance!! No wigs, just lots of hair!

1696 French jeton, Parties Casuelles. "Utile damnum" refers to the need sometimes to do harm for the good of all --as in trimming away the lower branches on a tree trunk. How exactly this refers to fiscal policy I'm not sure.

If it's not a Pau (cow) mintmark, but just a P mintmark (for Dijon) (I don't know why P was used for Dijon!), then there are more possibilities, some more common than others ... 1693 P 4 sols aux deux "L", a small coin (19 mm wide) with a very different design than the Pau coins 1693 P sol de 15 deniers with or without a fleur-de-lis countermark (22-25 mm wide), again very different design... (these are common coins) etc etc etc. I must admit, my curiosity is piqued! hope the photo will eventually show up!

Does the coin look anything like this one? This is a 1694 1/4 écu aux palmes of Louis XIV. It weighs 6.746 grams and is between 27 and 30 mm wide. If your piece is indeed from Pau (which would be a "cow" mintmark), and you think it was overstruck, then it could be one of the following, assuming it's a silver coin: 1693 1/12 écu aux palmes de France-Navarre-Béarn, quite small, 2.261 g and between 19 and 21 mm wide 1693 1/2 écu aux palmes de France-Navarre-Béarn, 13.544 grams and 32 to 35 mm wide 1693 écu aux palmes etc., 27.142 grams and 39 to 41 mm wide, quite a big coin These last two I mention are quite rare, so I doubt it's one of them. Or it could be a small coin, quite different from the design above, a sol de 15 deniers de France-Navarre-Béarn, only 1.85 g and betwee 21 and 23 mm wide. ...and a few other possibilities.

1709 French jeton of the Galères with the hundred-headed dragon guarding the golden apple tree in the Garden of the Hesperides. Perhaps the dragon symbolized these galley ships, with their complement of prisoners, slaves and a few free men that Louis XIV didn't hesitate to use in his many wars. They were outlawed by the time of the French Revolution.

Another jeton from Burgundy. 1715 of course is the year Louis XIV died an old man, and this jeton shows the moon "receiving its light from another", i.e., the regent ruling after the king's death.

Ditto what bill and elverno said. beautiful coins. So why does the city of Nancy figure a thistle so prominently on its coat of arms? just wondering...

1722 jeton of Burgundy

The shield represents the defense of Burgundy against the various armies running around France during the Fronde (nobles' revolt during the regency of the young Louis XIV). The orientation of the design --with the shield on the bottom, with arrows raining from the heavens-- is as presented on the cgb.fr site, but you could always convince someone that the motto around the edge has no clear start and finish, that the intended orientation isn't clear, and that the UFO should really be up in the air, with the poor French peasants shooting arrows at it.

I just couldn't resist -- I'm putting this coin up for sale on FleaBay. Calling all UFO buffs. This jeton now for sale on eBay: UFO shield

Thanks Constanius for the research. I am woefully ignorant on the finer points of 17th (and 18th!!) -century European wars and treaties.

Thanks a million grivna -- this is very helpful! Frank

I've had this jeton for a few years and haven't been able to identify its probable date or country of origin. It looks rather like some German 18th-century jetons I've seen, same style and make, but I haven't had any luck searching German sites for clues. The obverse shows scales, both in their case and out, along with ... what? a heater? a smoker? on the right side. The other side shows what's probably a dove flying over a landscape with an olive branch, unless it's a halcyon, the bird whose presence traditionally calms the waves. What do you think?

That is one beautiful coin. I am filled with lust in my heart.

A single shiny Eurocent on the shelf of the machine (not in the reject chute). Like, someone looked at it and said "What the hell?"