Ian

I have wondered if it was the source of inspiration for Concorde?

A scarcer silver jeton dated 1710 which was issued for the Paris church `Sainte Madeleine de la Cite'. Obverse depicts mature bust of Louis XIV (the sun king) and the reverse a scene from the last supper.

Fantastic. That was some find! Well done that man. It's pay back time for the time, money and effort you've invested in developing your own knowledge base. Ian

I like the perspective on the interior on this one. Struck in white metal.

These low countries jetons are always in demand. Like most of that time, it generally conveys the concept that the good things in life are worth fighting for/ must be worked for. A nice historical piece. Ian

1612 1/8th teston issued for the town and Bishopric of Verdun under Charles of Lorraine-Chaligny Hopefully someone else has a 1611

1613 double liard from Nevers et Rethel (France)

1614 double liard from Bouillon et Sedan

1618 'orte' from Danzig, complete with hole. 1617 silver jeton issued for the Conseil du Roi (Kings Counsel) 1616 silver daalder from Utrecht, Netherlands over to somebody else for now.......

1619 `cuivre jaune' (yellow copper /brass) jeton issued for the `Conseil du Roi'. Poor quality, but 1619 and one step further backwards.

Back in July last year I had the good fortune to strike a deal with a poster for the purchase of some shooting medals. These finally arrived with me last week, courtesy of a good friend in the US of A. My photographic skills are legendary......for being pure sh*te that is, so i'm sticking to using my trusty scanner. Even my poor skills can't dull the sheer majesty of these items. They are as follows: 1891 Bern (Burgdorf) by Homberg (ref Krause 63 / Richter 215) mintage 1,656 in silver 1894 Bern ((Thun) by Homberg (ref Krause 68 / Richter 228) mintage 1,452 in silver 1887 Geneva by Lossier (ref Krause 109 / Richter 628) mintage 4,354 in bronze 1896 Geneva by Bovy (ref Krause 120 / Richter 691) mintage1,202 in bronze 1890 Thurgau (Frauenfeld) by Bovy (ref Krause 228 / Richter 1250) mintage 4,500 in bronze

you should maybe go and check in your collection as i did ........here's the 1622 I mentioned: in the interim, moving forward here's a 1620 silver escalin from the Brabant (Spanish Netherlands).

Nice! I like the early Frankfurt talers. Real money. Your posting just reminded me that I have a 1622 of that very same type.

a few from me for 1621 1. A Tallero of ferdinand II de Medici issued for Pisa. 2. A silver jeton of Marie de Medici, mother of Louis XIII and issued as Queen Regent. 3. A large 60 silver 60 kreuzer , crudely struck as ever for this issue.

Thanks again. I had thought that the 1632 jeton was more probably related to the routing of the Kings brother Gaston, Duc D'Orlean and Henri Duc de Montmorency (who was subsequently captured, imprisoned at Toulouse and subsequently put to death for treason)....Richelieu certainly knew how to make friends and influence people To catch up with the rest of the thread, here's another silver jeton dated 1623. I'm not sure if the reverse design is associated with any particular part of the administration. my suspicions are that it was a`stock' jeton. That is, a design that was struck and held in rreserve against the need to make up any shortfall in requirements elsewhere.

I am once more profoundly impressed by your research abilities. Many thanks indeed. I could find absolutely nothing when I searched for data concerning the 1631. 1632 is the only date listed in Feuardent, and Mitchiner for the legend, which is in itself a little strange given that the 1632 appears to be subject of debate in relation to its bon fides. The article you have found confirms the association of the 1631 reverse with Savoy, but for me raises questions as to why it is matched with the Chancellory as opposed to for example the `Conseil du Roi' (?). I suspect there may be more to the story behind this one just waiting to be unravelled. Ian

1625 silver jeton issued to mark the marriage between Charles I of Great Britain, and Henrietta Marie of France

1627 silver Patagon minted in Artois (rat mint mark above crown on dated side) for Arras. Followed by a silver jeton issued for Pierre Le Marchant, the Treasurer general of france at that time and Kings Counsellor to Louis XIII.

1629 silver teston of Charles IV, Duc de Lorraine.

Things seem to have gone quiet again of late re this thread. Here's a bit of an enigma. A 1631 silver jeton that doesn't appear to be listed for that date in either Feuardent or Mitchiner.

a bit of a doggie this one, but the date is relevant . A 1634 double tournois from Lowenstein Werthein Rochefort (Cugnon mint Luxembourg). ....followed closely with a silver Patagon dated 1633 from Brabant in the Spanish Netherlands

a few fench coppers: 1638 double tournois from Dombes featuring Gaston de Dombes 1637 and 1636 double tournois from Avignon featuring Pope Urbanus VIII 1635 double tournois from Bouillon et Sedan featuring Maurice de la Tour

Moving swiftly on, (there's someone somewhere keen to get a 1638 coin on view.......) Here's a 1639 1/4 franc of Louis XIII. The date is barely there unfortunately but the bottom of the 3 and 9 are perceptible in the legend. As with many silver coins of the time, `shaving' was a common occurrence, and this coin seems to have been subject to that practise. The coin type is fairly difficult to come across in a collectable condition.