bagerap Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Anytime that you see a token or medal with a beehive, you can be sure that there are umpteen variants. Each with a different number of bees. This jeton should, I believe, be in copper if it were Feuardent 5437 or 5439. But instead, it's brass and lacks a full complement of bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 5438 is listed as C7 jaune, for brass, normal called laiton in French. Cuivre jaune is literally copper yellow, so in this instance C jaune = brass. . A brass example from a different reverse bee hive die http://www.cgb.fr/corporations-le-corps-des-marchands-reunis,fjt_05787,a.html A copper example 5437, which appears to match your reverse bee hive http://www.montay-numismatique.fr/jeton-corps-marchands-runis-p-11282.html So I think you are okay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Nice piece. I like the bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagerap Posted July 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 5437 has one more bee in the left field. I looked at 5438, but there's something anomalous there too, unless of course the attribution was wrong. I'll find that picture again. Thanks pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 You are correct as to the number of bees, I suspect it is just a variant die. I would be more than happy to accept it as F. 5438 though you could PM Ian, as I believe he has Mitchener, which might have it listed. For what its worth, I am sure it is a genuine piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 When I was buying French jetons that showed bees --including variants of this one-- on eBay, a friend warned me that there was a bidder on eBay who would try to buy anything with bees on it (coins, dishes, silverware, etc etc). He/she would drive up the price by bidding high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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