lisa1976 Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 hi and good evening to you all, i am looking for some advice if anyone can help me, i have found an 1690 oval coin witch is 58 mm long and 49 mm wide and weighs appox 60 grams. on one side it has a man and woman on it with the words leopoldus et iosephus d.g imper. et rex rom then on the other side there is there of two birds flying from a nest on a rock cliff up to a blazzing sun with the moon and other clouds in the back ground and is scripted with nec rabide solis tede neq cornua lune terrent quin pignus generosum ducat ad alta i have absolutely no idea and if some one out there has your help advice and knowledge would be greatly appreciated many many thanks lisa i have just tried to upload photo's but it wont allow me tried through phone and camera i will keep trying !!! many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corina Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 get pics of the coin up that will help people see what you are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 One listing for an oval medal of Leopold & Joseph Holy Roman Emperors. http://books.google.ca/books?id=zxtsNg4YGl...p;q&f=false Abb. 39 Ovale Medaille auf die Kronung Josephs I. zum Romischen Konig mit Brustbildern Leopolds I. und Josephs I. My Translation follows Oval Medal of the Coronation(1690) of Joseph I. as King of the Romans(Germany) busts of Leopolds I(Holy Roman Emperor). and Joseph I(later to replace his father as Emperor(1705) No actual description of the medal. Might be the same as yours though. Pictures would be good. Joseph I, 1678-1711, Holy Roman emperor (1705-11), king of Hungary (1687-1711), King of Romans(Germany) Coronation 26 January 1690 in Augsburg, King of Bohemia (1705-11), son and successor of Leopold I. Joseph became Holy Roman emperor in the midst of the War of the Spanish Succession and died before it ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa1976 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 thanks for you reply's it is greatly appreciated, ive finally managed to get some pics up i hope these help. constanius thank you for your info but unfortunately the link wont take me through to anything !!!???? many thanks lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 thanks for you reply's it is greatly appreciated, ive finally managed to get some pics up i hope these help. constanius thank you for your info but unfortunately the link wont take me through to anything !!!???? many thanks lisa The link should work now http://books.google.ca/books?id=zxtsNg4YGl...p;q&f=false You can see why Leo was nicknamed 'Hogmouth' from your pics. Picture of the obverse of your medal here http://books.google.ca/books?id=zxtsNg4YGl...p;q&f=false The latin on the reverse 'nec rabide solis te de neq cornua lune terrent quin pignus generosum ducat ad alta' I think translates very roughly as: Not raging Sun or vile horned moon(The moon's crescent often adorned Luna's head suggestive of horns, and was known as cornua lunae), earthly riches let noble aristocrates be otherwise. The larger bird represents Leopold(Emperor, older & wiser) teaching his young son Joseph to soar/rule/behave as a King. That is, they rule with kindness & generosity, not anger. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa1976 Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 The link should work now http://books.google.ca/books?id=zxtsNg4YGl...p;q&f=false You can see why Leo was nicknamed 'Hogmouth' from your pics. Picture of the obverse of your medal here http://books.google.ca/books?id=zxtsNg4YGl...p;q&f=false The latin on the reverse 'nec rabide solis te de neq cornua lune terrent quin pignus generosum ducat ad alta' I think translates very roughly as: Not raging Sun or vile horned moon(The moon's crescent often adorned Luna's head suggestive of horns, and was known as cornua lunae), earthly riches let noble aristocrates be otherwise. The larger bird represents Leopold(Emperor, older & wiser) teaching his young son Joseph to soar/rule/behave as a King. That is, they rule with kindness & generosity, not anger. IMHO. constanius thank you so much for advice and help it is greatly appreciated i followed your link and it is the only reference to the medal that i can find, i have reposted the question on the medal forum to see if i can find anything else out. many thanks again for your advice and time kind regards lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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