Rhino Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 I got these two notes recently: I'm guessing these are notes issued for German-occupied Russian territories during WWI (year 1916). BUT, I wasn't aware that the Germans captured any Russian land during WWI I know they occupied Poland, but was that a territory under Imperial Russian control at the time? Which would explain the issuing of "Ein Rubel" and "Drei Rubel" notes? What's the story behind these? Anyone who has seen them before, please share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klark Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 These notes were issued by Germany to the occupied territories in Russia. Germany issued similar notes in Romania in 1917: http://alexklark.wordpress.com/category/a3-bgr/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 These notes were issued by Germany to the occupied territories in Russia.Germany issued similar notes in Romania in 1917: http://alexklark.wordpress.com/category/a3-bgr/ What territories did they occupy during WWI? What parts of Russia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 These notes were issued by Germany to the occupied territories in Russia.Germany issued similar notes in Romania in 1917: http://alexklark.wordpress.com/category/a3-bgr/ By the way Klark, I noticed that your site looks EXTREMELY similar to mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Everything past the little dotted line up to the bold darker line was occupied by the Germans by 1917: Before the collapse of the Imperial government in March 1917 the war was not going very well for Russia - their loss at the battle of Tannenberg set a catastrophic chain of events in the war for Russia. After the socialist revolution in October the war went from bad to worse - with huge numbers of Russian troops simply walking away from their assignments. The communists under Lenin signed the Treaty of Brest Litovsk in March 1918 which pretty much ceded much of the German occupied areas to the German government. Of course this did not last long as the Germans themselves collapsed in November and these occupied areas were then subject to local rule or a lot of fighting with even the Germans more or less acting as soldiers of fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Everything past the little dotted line up to the bold darker line was occupied by the Germans by 1917: Before the collapse of the Imperial government in March 1917 the war was not going very well for Russia - their loss at the battle of Tannenberg set a catastrophic chain of events in the war for Russia. After the socialist revolution in October the war went from bad to worse - with huge numbers of Russian troops simply walking away from their assignments. The communists under Lenin signed the Treaty of Brest Litovsk in March 1918 which pretty much ceded much of the German occupied areas to the German government. Of course this did not last long as the Germans themselves collapsed in November and these occupied areas were then subject to local rule or a lot of fighting with even the Germans more or less acting as soldiers of fortune. Thanks for the info! Great map. nice story behind these notes then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 And here is what the communists gave away: All the shaded areas were occupied by the Central powers. The German and Austria-Hungarian forces more or less encouraged the dismemberment of the former Russian empire, including Ukraine which split into factions that were nationalists, white and red. There were also similar things going on in Latvija, Lithuania and Poland, but the latter didn't have a lot of reds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Here is a note issued by the then united Hetmanate and White forces for the Ukrainian State in 1919: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 The German issued notes that were used in the area of Latvija and Lithuania the so called Ost notes, continued to be used there after the Germans were long gone into 1920 when they were finally replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klark Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 By the way Klark, I noticed that your site looks EXTREMELY similar to mine... True. I was inspired a little from your website. But not only ... I most inspired here ... http://www.bancnoteleromanesti.go.ro/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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