more unidentifed stuff

[ScottO]

gotta love this stuff

could possibly be brokage, so only having one side to go off is not easy

i thought i knew what this was.. i dont so.

and this again

[frank]

First two are jetons (XIV-XV cent.) for the French market. Can't quite make out the legends, although the second looks "fictive"--made-up strings of letters.

[ScottO]

14th and 15th century jettons? thats earlier then i thought

whats the thoughts on the first one, one side is smooth other then the design showing through like brokage error, is this so?

[frank]

It may well be brockage. I don't collect these and haven't seen enough to judge how often it happens in these jetons, but their quality is typically uneven.

An interesting aside --the first jeton reads SALVATOR around the right side (can't yet figure out the left side). Starting in the Middle Ages, this was a common way of interpreting the IHS emblem, as Iesus Hominem Salvator, Jesus Savior of Men. In fact the IHS emblem originated in the early church as simply a shortcut for the name of Jesus (H = Greek eta).

[ScottO]

so good early french jettons.

i'm no expert on brockage, but i cant help but wonder why that other side is smooth, i bought them as detector finds so i dont see them being tampered with inn such a way that happens, and there seems to be some wear on that side.

it feels smooth to touch on that blank side.