siluska Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hello this medal was a weight of 23.5 g and it looks silver to me. i dont think it's a coin. But i don't know how to identify it, because i dont speak german. Also i must mention that under the tree, the two cartriges contain a monogramed IONA/THAN on one side and DAVID on the other. Can you help me with a translation of the text and the reason. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 LINK Hope this helps, also David & Jonathan also 1.23.Samuel struck whilst Ferdinánd II(1619-1737) was Holy Roman Emperor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Pondering a bit more on the Bible passage, it could have been an old catholic version so 1.23 Samuel would be a different version. David & Jonathan make a pact before God(the shaking of hands) you need to select chapter 23. "16 Jonathan son of Saul set off and went to David at Horesh and encouraged him in the name of God. 17 'Do not be afraid,' he said, 'for my father Saul's hand will not reach you. You are to reign over Israel, and I shall be second to you. Saul my father is himself aware of this.' 18 And the two made a pact before Yahweh. David stayed at Horesh and Jonathan went home" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Finally tracked down the right bible and passage, it is the Luther Bible Samuel 1.XX(20). 23. LINK if you scroll down to 23 and hold your pointer over it you can see the original german. Using the catholic bible it appears to be "Sam 1.20.23 And as regards the agreement we made, you and I, why, Yahweh is witness between us for ever" LINK to Medaillen Hamburg 1549- 2009: Katalog mit Preisen, they date it as 1749?, the question mark is theirs not mine. None of the depicted medals match yours exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 That's quick detective work Constanius. Well done. Cool medal, Siluska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 The SYR XXXVII 6 is for Syriac 37.6 And do not forsake(forget) him when you distribute the spoils = Do not forget your friend(s) hence it is a 'Friendship Medal' the engraver is Hermann Roth Von Rothenfels, FORRER'S ENTRY: Roth Von Rothenfels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siluska Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thank you for the interest and for the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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