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I just typed out a list of major mints that used to mint Russian coins and related so forth.
Reference used is Uzedenikov.
1. Moscow Mints
- Red - struck most of the gold, silver and copper coins from 1701-1737
- Kadashevsky - Struck copper coins from 1699-1727
- Naberezhny copper
- New - Struck silver kopeks from 1700 - 1718.
Mint marks: generally MMD, for moscow mint.
2. Saint Petersburg and suburbs:
- St. Petersburg - struck all denominations from 1724-1728, 1738-1798, 1806-1917.
This mint has produced almost of all Russia's coins, including trial coins, such as platinum coins, trial nickel coins, and even major forgeries of the Dutch gold dutch and Turkish paras. Created dies for other mints as well. This mint had strong connections with other major international mints, such as the Paris, Strasburg, Brussels, Birmingham private mints and Osaka mints.
- Sestroretsk - one of the major mints that had new technology at that time to smelt copper out from bronze cannons. It operated from approximately 1757 - 1778. In 1770-1778, there was several attempts to create "Sestroretsk" ruble coins out from raw copper from this mint. It failed horribly because such coins were too heavy and difficult to create.
- Kolphino - Operated from 1810-1821. Used mintmarks of I.M ("reverse N", M) and operated for a shortwhile from 1840-1843.
Mint marks: Generally CIIb, for Saint Petersburg mint.
3. Ekaterinburg - 1727-1876. The only reason why there was a mint from Ekaterninburg is because Ekaterninburg is full of natural resources and it still does up to now. In 1725, striking of copper "plates" coins, inspired by the Swedish copper plates was tried out, but it was not terribly successful. Ekaterinburg used to mint copper coins, and later supplied copper planchets for Moscow Mints. Ekaterinburg's minting technology was pretty far behind compared to both Moscow and Saint Petersburg, and this could be told from their crude strike, which still existed until the late 1820s. Mintmark for this mint is denoted by E.M.
4. Anninskoye - 1789 - 1798. Struck various copper coins and they took part in the 1796 overstriking event. Mintmark was denoted by AM.
5. Suzun - 1766 - 1847. One of the remote mints that strucked Siberian coins till 1781. It continued resuming minting coins 1830 marked coins with the mintmark "KM" and then later on with "CM"
6. Tiflis - 1804-1834. (located in Tbilisi, Georgia) Struck silver and copper coins for Georgia.
7. Tauric - Operated just a short two year, 1787-1788. Struck copper coins and possibly silver coins, but we do not know for sure. This is one of the mysterious place that coins were minted in Pheodosia.
8. Warsaw - Operated from 1816 - 1864, when Poland is still part of Russian terrority. Coins from 1834-1850 were struck with the historical dual denomination. Mintmarks were MW from 1816-1850, but they were later changed to BM for "B"arsaw Mint, as there is no "W" in Russian.
9. Helsingfors - Operated from 1863-1917, located in Helsinki. Without much saying, this mint minted gold, silver and copper coins for Finland with a complete set of their own design, except for the Nikolai II and the double headed eagle.
There were some foreign mints that were involved with the Russian coinage.
Paris mint: In 1861, 20, 15 and 10 kopecks coins were minted in Paris. Although they have the same mintmark as CIIb, they do not have the mintmaster initials.
Some of the 1896, 1898, rubles, 1896, 1897 and 1899 50 kopecks were minted in Paris. Some of the rarer gold coins such as the 1896 25 rubles and 1902 37.5rubles-100 francs were minted there too. Paris mints marked their designs on their edge by an asterisk.
Brussels Mint: It strucked the same 1897-1899 rubles, like the Paris mint, but they are noted by their marks on the edge of the coins, which is either a double asterisk, or double ticks.
This mint too minted trial 1863 2 kopeks coin in nickel and copper with the mark of EM.
They also minted trial nickel and copper coins of the 10 kopecks 1871 series.
Stockholm mint: Strucked trial coins for Finnish trial coins in 1863. No mintmarks.
Osaka mints: Strucked some of 1916 15 and 10 kopeks coins and possibly trial 1916 NICKEL coins. These could only be told by their absence of the mintmaster marks.
Private mint in Birmingham - struck copper coins of all denominations from 1896-1898. There is no indictions of the differences from the Russian ones.
Sadogura estate: Minted coins for Moldova and Wallachia from 1771-1774.
Avesta mint: Sweds were counterfeiting Russian 5 kopek coins as copper revolutionary prices were profitable and so these were done in major scales. In 1788, a large mass of counterfeit Catherine II 5 kopeks coins were found. These are usually dated by 1764, 1778, 1787.
Berlin & Hamburg mint: Germans struck steel 1, 3, 5 kopek coins for the German occupied Russian land.
Hope you enjoyed reading it. I might have missed some out... so feel free to reply.
P.S. There ARE a variety of mintmarks, such as MMD, MM or MD for Moscow Mint, or CIIb or CM
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OMG BRILLIANT. Time for more coin "spamming".
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Indeed, that is true. You can find German coins easily, but the question is, if you want to assemble a whole set, you are probably looking at more than some... I guess 200+ type of coins easily? (excluding all the common dates, etc)
I mean, the only reason why Germany has so many different types of coins is only if you included all the previous German states, which makes it quite impossible to collect... :|
I have seen a German coin catalogue and I just gave up collecting German coins after seeing how many there are.
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P.S. German coins are almost, or if not, as hard, or if not, harder than collecting Russian coins
I have a nightmare trying to assemble a decent Russian coin set >_<
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A handy link here ^_^
http://www.joelscoins.com/odd.htm#katanga
The Katanga cross is a scarce and unusual piece of primitive money It is large cast copper cross, about 7 inches across, that was used in parts of what is now Zaire up to the early 20th century. One would buy about 22 pounds of flour or five or six chickens. Two would buy a gun.
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From the book "Russian coins" by Uzdenikov. Enjoy
New Page 1 Платиновые монеты / Platinium Coins
Номинал / NameВремя чеканки, гг. / PeriodПроба сплава / AlloyМасса, г / Weight g12 рублей1830-1845Не очищенная платинаunrefined platinum41,416 рублей1829-184520,713 рубля1828-184510,35Золотые монеты / Gold Coins
НоминалВремя чеканки, гг.Проба сплаваМасса, г20 рублей17558833,1415 рублей189786 2/512,9015 русов189586 2/512,9010 рублей1755-17631764-17961802-18051886-18971896-1911888894 2/386 2/586 2/516,5413,0912,1712,908,6015 русов189586 2/58,607 рублей 50 копеек189786 2/56,455 рублей1755-17631764-17961798-18051817-18851886-18961897-1911888894 2/38886 2/586 2/58,236,546,086,546,454,305 русов189586 2/54,30Двойной червонец1701-170217141749-17519394 1/1094 2/36,946,946,94Червонец1701-17111712-17161729-17481749-17531757-17961796-17979394 1/109394 2/39494 2/33,473,473,473,473,473,493 рубля1869-1885883,932 рубля1718-1728754,10Серебряные монеты / Silver Coins
НоминалВремя чеканки, гг.Проба сплаваМасса, гЕфимок179883 1/331,10Рубль1704-1705170717101712;17141718-17301731-17611762-17961796-17971798-188518601886-1915~84~84;77~77;72~5870777283 1/383 1/37286 2/5~28,00~28,00~27,50~28,5028,4425,8524,0029,2520,7324,0020,00Полтина, полтинник, 50 копеек1699-17061707171017121718-17291731-17611762-179617971798-188518601886-1914~84~84;77~77;72~58~70777283 1/383 1/37286 2/5~14,00~14,00~14,00~14,2514,2212,9312,0014,6310,3712,0010,00Полуполтинник, полполтины, 25 копеек1701-1705170717101713172617301739-17541755-17581764-179617971798-188518601886-1901~84~84;77~77;72~72~55;727077777283 1/383 1/37286 2/5~7,00~7,00~7,00~7,00~6,657,116,466,045,977,315,186,006,0020 копеек1760176217631764-17931810-18111813-18601860-18661867-1917727271 2/3727283 1/372484,804,724,804,774,804,1514,083,6015 копеек1760176217631764-17941860-18661867-1917727271 2/37272983,603,523,603,563,062,70Гривенник, гривна, 10 копеек1701-17061707;17091710;17131718-17231726-17271731-17391741-17451746-17571764-179617971798-18101810-18121813-18601860-18661867-1917~77~84~7270~42 и ниже7772777283 1/383 1/37283 1/37248~2,40~2,40~2,402,842,662,592,592,422,372,932,072,402,072,041,80Десять денег, 5 копеек1701-17041713-17141755-17611762176317971798-18011810-18121813-18601860-18661867-1915~773877727183 1/383 1/37283 1/27248~1,402,831,211,171,201,461,041,201,041,020,90Алтын, алтынник, 3 копейки17041710-17121713-171417181727~77~723838~42~0,80~0,801,701,700,80Грош1727~42;180,55;1,27Копейка1713-1714171417181729-173038не выше 1238~48~0,602,180,57~0,30Медные монеты / Copper Coins
НоминалВремя чеканки, гг.Масса, гГривенник, 10 копеек17261762;17961830-183940,9551,1945,505 копеек1723-173017401757-179617961802-18101830-18391849-18671867-1917191620,4820,4851,1925,5951,1922,7525,5916,388,194 копейки1762;179620,483 копейки18271839-18481849-18671867-1916191613,6530,7115,369,834,912 копейки, грош1724;172717401757-1762176017621763-179617961797-18101810-18301830-18391839-18481849-18671867-191619168,9120,4820,4810,2410,2420,4810,2420,4813,659,1020,4810,246,553,28Копейка1704-17121708;170917101713-17181718;17211724;172617271728-17291730;173517431755-17571757-176117621763-179617961797-18101810-18301830-18391839-18471849-18671867-191719168,35;8,194,83;2,976,558,194,108,194,104,1020,4820,4820,4810,245,1210,245,1210,246,834,5510,245,123,281,64Деньга, денежка, 1/2 копейки1700-17011701-17041704-171217101713-171217181730-17541757-176017621763-179617961797-18101810-18281839-18481849-18671867-19166,405,304,27;4,103,284,102,058,195,122,565,122,565,123,415,122,561,64Полушка, 1/4 копейки1700-17011701-17041704-171217101713-17181718-172217271730-17541757-179617961797-18101839-18461849-18671867-19163,202,652,13;2,051,622,051,021,024,102,561,282,562,561,280,82Полуполушка, 1/8 копейки17001,60 -
oh oops, I read it as black . Sorry, I wasn't too careful.
I guess you call it a planchet, but if it doesn't fit... or not exactly the same size of the penny, that, I don't know.
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Hum? Any photographs? Year? Extra details...?
Hard to imagine the value just from that...
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O_O Powerful... O_O
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150,000... O_O You can buy a house for that price... Geez... I wished i am a millionaire now...
Or... the mint can always make copies out that... I would be really interested...
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LOL copper plates and 5 kopeks
Too bad the Russians didn't go far enough to make precious metal plates or it would have been too interesting
Imagine if this did circulate
http://www.goldbergauctions.com/cgi-bin/vi...ale=31&lot=1868
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I read in a German forum that a several 9999 german gold coins had red spots
A university investigated them with X rays and established the spots were
84 % silver 10 % copper and 5 % gold and were probably silversulfide
It was assumed the spots were only a few molecular layers thick and were impurities of the planchet makers who made silver blanks and gold blanks
So assuming my coin is spotted not with acrylic paint but with silversulfide I seam to find that one of the possible treatment is citric acid µ
I know nothing about silver any suggestions ?
Yuck, that is very horrible. Must be some horrible silver/copper plating devices used to strike the gold coins. Bad quality checking.
Citrus acid wouldn't necessary help, as it may dissolve some of the copper away, but it will not do anything with the silver. I was about to suggest nitric acid, but I REALLY don't know the results, as it does seperate the silver off from gold too but I don't know how the final result would be like...
Geez, what kind of coin do you have there ageka?
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OMG LOL I have those coins in my collection and I failed to notice them.
Nice proof coins.
Hehehe.
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I just wondered... you know how sellers come up with such figures, such as 10% offstruck, 25%, 50% etc.
Is there any precise way of calculating how much the offstrike is off by?
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OMG banivechi, you rule XD I fail to remember that XD;;;
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Jesus. You can knock someone off with that O_O
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Not really today, but just a few days ago, there came a form, declaring
"PLZ PAY 10% TAX FOR YOUR NUMIS. ITEMS AS THEY ARE TOO EXPENSIVE" <- well obviously it was not phrased this way
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Nice buy!!!
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Geez, I had too much time on me and I started photoshop from scratch... definately not something that I would touch for quite sometime...
Anyways, this is a total "commie" design. Don't ask me why I decided to do one, I just felt like doing one
500kb+ sized file
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Geez, that's fast. I think I should try to produce some of my sets
I am jealous of Biggandyy's speedy photoshopping techniques
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:S I can't tell without the column, it's pretty hard to tell
But I am assuming that you are trying to compare between 1956 to 1996...? Seems like the average is like at least 5 fold increase or so... for most of them, if my eyes are right... Probably the coins increase their value by about 8-10% per annum... or so... :|
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Sorry, I vote for number 4 ^_^;
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OH that massive copper ruble
You might be right
70th Anniversary of the Great October... (1987)
in USSR commemoratives
Posted
Commemoration of the 70th anniversary of the Great October Socialist RevolutionThis is part of the Government issued proof sets available. While it may seem pretty easy to find one, this may not necessary be true. Minted all on the same date, 20.10.1987 by the Leningrad Mint