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  1. << I cannot count the number of people I've met, many at the local coin club, who started with Statehood Quarters >>

    Now how many of them would have been there if the state quarter series had been struck just for collectors and not circulated? Because that is in effect what is going to happen with the presidential dollars. A long four coin per year series that no one is going to see because they won't circulate and after the first year or so will be struck strictly for sale to collectors.

     

    The mint has a 3 1/2 year supply of dollars on hand right now. After the first year of the president dollars they'll have a TEN year or more supply on hand. So what happens the second year? Roll sets and bags for collectors, just like they do the Sac dollars now. UNLESS they discontinue the dollar note. Then they will be able to move the inventory and the presidentail dollar series will probably be as successful as the state quarters.

  2. yes it is very strange that companies being able to put up a web page

    do not take the time to translate it in english

    Well considering he is located in Austria and most of the people he will be selling to speak German, why should he translate it to english? I don't see anything on this site that translates it into German.

  3. < On the other hand, 20 ton hydrolic shop presses can be had for less than $200... it ought to be possible to adapt one of those to press a coin. >

     

    Consider this, the smallest US coins, the cent and dime, are struck at 40 tons. Silver dollar or silver round size is around 140 tons.

  4. In Liquid Nitrogen I could see a zincoln cent shattering but I would be a bit surprised if a bronze one did. I also would not expect a silver or gold coin to shatter either. (I wonder if clad coins might seperate layers due to shear tensions setup by different rates of contraction.?)

  5. Draped bust large cents by die variety

    English Conder tokens that were actually issued to circulate as money

    Third party certification slabs/certificates by variety

    The world sice 1860 by type, no gold or NCLT.

    German snd French metal notgeld coins by Lamb number.

  6. It is rust.

     

    Unlike our current plated cents which are punched from the strip and then plated, the steel cent strip was plated BEFORE the blanks were punched from it so only the obv and rev faces were plated with zinc. The edges were smply raw mild steel and subject to rusting.

  7. < over 1.5 million of these were struck and ready for public release before ultimately being rejected. >

     

    This 1.5 million were not intended for circulation. They were a test run to see how well the equipment would handle an actual production run. Something not widely known is that the 1974 Aluminum cents were actually struck in mid 1973.

     

    < that only leaves the 64 Peace Dollar to surface and all of the Modern US Mythical Coins will have been realized. >

     

    I have another one that almost no one knows about. 2000-S business strike Sac dollar. They never made 2000-S Sacs for circulation, but they did do a production test run of them like they did the 74 Al cents.

  8. < I didn't even know there was such a think as coin notgeld. >

     

    Yep, issued by municipalities, private individuals, businesses, transportation companis etc. I collect French coin notgeld, and the German municipal coins (I have over 1,200 different varieties of the German issues by Lamb numbers.) I don't do the paper notgeld at all.

  9. Historically copies have had a long standing in American numismatics, especially among collectors of early copper. In the mid nineteenth century when photography was not very commonplace it was not at all unusual for the owner of a very rare variety to have eletrotypes made for his fellow collectors. It would both provide a "hole filler" until such time as a genuine specimen could be had, or for those were another would 'never' be available, and it would also provide an example that could be used to help identify another specimen. If you discovered a new variety or possible new variety you could send an electro of it off to an expert for confirmation. These contemporary electrotypes are collectible in their own right now and can bring a decent price at auction.

  10. From the bill

    < (11) Placing inscriptions on the edge of coins, known as edge-incusing, is a hallmark of modern coinage and is common in large-volume production of coinage elsewhere in the world, such as the 2,700,000,000 2-Euro coins in circulation and coins of the People's Republic of China, but it has not been done on a large scale in United States coinage in recent years. >

     

    A hallmark of MODERN coinage? Started when in the 1600's? And has not been done on a large scale in the US in recent years. Yep, other than one modern commem, not since 1933.

     

    < `(II) in the case of President Chester Alan Arthur, incorporating the name and likeness of Alice Paul, a leading strategist in the suffrage movement, >

     

    The other President that didn't have a spouse will have Liberty as protrayd on a coin current during their administration. Why did they single out Chester Arthur for a different treatment? And why Alice Paul rather than one of the other "leading suffragettes"?

     

    As for the Arabic numerals I think his point is that the nubers we commonly use today are NOT Arabic numerals. These are Arabic numerals. ٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩ (sorry they are so small)

  11. < This astute observation shows it to be a fake. The "GOD WE TR" showing

    as raised on the bottom of Lincolns bust on the 1943 portion of the coin

    shows that the 1942 portion was struck over the 1943. >

     

    No it merely shows that the motto from the 1942 stricke was not crushed by the 1943 strike. What is more telling to me is why didn't the lower part of the bust from the 1942 strike, which was much higher than the fields, fill in the motto of the 1943 strike?

  12. One interesting one is the Petition Crown of Charles II. Thomas Simon created it in an attempt to win the office of mintmaster. His pattern crown included a petition or plea asking the king to examine his crown and compare it to that of the other suplicants and if it was better made then to award him the office. Now I have just paraphased the petition, but on the edge of the coin it runs for some thirty words or so in two lines and in several different fonts. I couldn't find the exact wording of the petition but I did find a picture of it here.

     

    http://www.coinvideos.org/Introduction/page-sv22w.html

  13. I have a fire proof safe for my guns and ammo. So I just made room for my coins in it. If it ever gets hot enough in there for the ammo to go off I'll have a bunch of holey coins.

    :ninja:

    That might not be a good idea. The solvents, oils and preservatives used on the guns may wind up being harmful to the coins.

  14. I am assuming that the main reason for this is because the mints were either lazy to produce new planchets, or there was really a shortage of materials.

    Usually overstrikings were done to either change the value of an existing coin, or to permit a coin from another country to circulate locally during a time when the local country was in the midst of a coin shortage.

     

    The russian coins that you linked is an example of the first case. Under Peter II the value of the copper coins were doubled. Along with striking new coins at the new weight standard, the older coins were also overstruck to show their new value. A few years later the weight standard was changed back and the coinsthat had been overstruck were overstruck yet again to return them to their original values.

     

    A couple of good examples of the second case are the overstriking of spanish milled 8 reales coins in England in 1804 and the overstriking of these same coins in Brasil a couple decades later. In the case of Brasil the Spanish coin was the proper size and weight to a 960 reis coin already, so why go to all the troule to melt them down, create new planchets the same size and strike them, when they could save time and effort just overstriking them as they were.

     

    In the case of England they were having a severe coin shortage when a supply of captured Spanish silver coins arrived. Now they could have taken the time to melt them down and process them into coins, but they needed coins quickly so the Bank of England had Matthew Bolton simply overstrike the captured coinage.

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