kopeikin

Hi, IgorS, how did you find out so early? I did a few bids and still waiting to get any word from Mr. Elmen.

It is a bit early to expect results. Try to contact Mr. Elmen if you placed bids.

Senkra, by your pictures it is even hard to tell if coin is genuine. Only way for you to sell it well is to send it to grading

from $2000 and up depending on grade

is not my poltina 1800 look better?

Blackdrone, this is fake. Stay away from it. OOOps. Blackdrone = to name of eBay seller jealous009 from Hungary?

.... The dies are made by the mint, however, they were stolen from the mint...

You have wild imagination. I personally like such features in people. They make good fiction writers. However, were you standing beside with candlelight when these dies were stolen?

"the country is not touristic at all..."

Sigi, can you please elaborate on this? I was born in former Soviet Union but have not been there for 24 years.

I went on their site to take a look. I found that looks did change. Past auction information with prices realised however seem to be intact. What is the problem?

even by looking at your pictures on can see it is not proof

I think it is not fake

I watched this a few weeks ago. I was impressed by counterfeiter’s idea to strike coins with industrial nail driving tool used in construction which was powered by gun powder cartridges. In general the story is full of BS IMHO.

<<<I did not understand what you are trying to say.>> It's pretty simple. Identify which of the 8000 Brekke/Severin/Uzdenikov/Julian coins have had forgeries reported, support that with images of the original and forgery reverse/obverse/edge together with analytical narrative text, and make this available as an integral part of a relational database to Russian collectors.Ron

Bkb, what is essence you're saying is buy only high priced slabbed coins from reputable auction houses and plan on a fair percentage of those being forgeries. But even of those, what are the authenticators working with? They don't have the original coin, only a picture of the original coin. They look to see if the coin has previously been reported as forge, which is what I'm proposing in the Forgery Task. They have the actual forgery & size/wt, but so does whoever reports the forgery, and good images and descriptions from the reporter, together with observations of others, can go a long way for those who don't have the actual forgery. I think it says something that we can't say at a minimum which of the 8000 Brekke/Severin/Uzdenikov/Julian coins have had forgeries reported for them. As regards JRNS, not having been through all 52 forgery articles, I can't say about the quality of the fakes reported, but the fact is poor quality or not, those forgeries are out there being bought and sold at this moment. The forgery task refers not only to JRNS articles which is a starting point, but other sources which as you mention are numerous. Ron

here a picture of genuine 10k 1771 siberian was posted in Russian coin forum

http://coins.lave.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=1509667&mode=view

I post it here for comparison reasons

bobh, does your coin have same amount of mint luster or better then one on Heritage? Your pictures unfortunately do not show too much mint luster. Hopefully it is just your pictures problem.

yes, nice color. it is burgundy or sour cherry color.

Nice collection. Very good pictures. ...but unfortunately I can only look but not buy as coins purchased there cannot cross Russian border because of silly laws in Russia.

Sigi, did you return 1771 coin back or....

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574633083&toolid=10001&campid=5335826004&customid=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg&icep_item=330874057595

for original the price is too low. for a fake it is too high? But this is a fake!

• Congrats to your purchase! I also was bidding on it. I also hoped coin is in some MS grade.
  

is it an authentic NOVODEL coin? If it is how NOVODEL which supposed to be made for rare coin collectors could have so much wear.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574633083&toolid=10001&campid=5335826004&customid=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg&icep_item=200877603199

Fake Alexander III rouble:

http://www.ebay.com/...984.m1423.l2649

Sigi, eBay, as any other auction platform doesn't like unpaying buyers, so it is better to pay and later get a reimbursement on return, as long as seller accepts returns... You will loose the money on postage though, but will keep your eBay privileges, and if the seller is not agreeable, there is always a PayPal resolution centre, so you are well covered. Good luck!

'extant4cell', are you nuts? sorry for my French. Money is very easy to be taken from you and very very difficult to get back.

Hi, as you know I am the "winner" of the Siberian 10kop1771KM. I haven't paid yet. I obtained from the seller that he sends it to me on approval.

I hope to soon hold it in hand for close examination.

Sigi-

Sigi, I look forward to this. When you have it please share your findings here.