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I am a recent collector that is converting from causal collecting to a more serious, knowledgeable collector.

I'm am reading Weimar W White's Coin Chemistry, In one section he mentions "that in honor of the Bicentennial celebration, quarters issued in 1976 are 40% silver"

It reads to me that all quarters minted in 1976 were 40% silver,I know this isn't the case because the guide books list the copper clad coins, the silver clad quarters with an S and the the sliver clad proofs with the S.

and that millions were melted in the 80's.

Were they in general circulation?

And if so how does one tell which is which?

Arizona is returning to its gold rush roots with a bill that would make precious metals legal currency.

http://www.foxnews.c...d-legal-tender/

Here is a sections from the AP article.

Democratic Sen. Steve Farley of Tucson said the measure is unnecessary and would create long lines at businesses as store clerks inspect and weigh the gold and silver. The measure would allow the use of precious metals as money only when businesses agree to take them.

 

"Businesses are not clamoring for this, to say the least," Farley said. "This is basically growing the size and scope of government to create an entirely new currency system."

Republican Rep. David Livingston of Peoria, a financial adviser who ushered the legislation through the House, said his clients were eager to tap into their gold and silver reserves.

So with these two statements, To me it doesn't make much sense in passing the law. Since some of the people working in the stores around here. Can't make change for a gold dollar, with out the manager.

I had a young women @ home despot refuse to take them because she didn't know what the price of gold was! When they first came out, and some body was paying a premium to the women that worked the 7-11 that I used them to buy coffee every morning before I retired for them. Neither her or the guy buying them new anybody could go to a bank and get them. I also have been told that they were fake and not real money by people working in stores!

Granted most were young and did know a news story that didn't involve a signer or actor!

I can't imagine what using real gold and silver would do, to those limited knowledge folks. Not to mention how would the parties make change for items less than the weight of the gold/silver piece?

The second thing is if your are in a position to have gold/silver reserves, as an investment why would you want to tap them a couple of dollars at a time?

And what does the dept of revenue in the state do.

The state Department of Revenue opposed the measure. It passed in the House only after an amendment was added to exempt the department from having to accept gold or silver as tax payments.

I admit that other than some art silver bars, and sheet stock,bar and wire along with some casting grains for jewelery work. I don't own any other than the ASE's that i like the look of.

What do some members think?

Here is the coin/token?

Obverse

Reverse

Yesterday not really in change, but in a bag of tokens I bought. Found a 2 doubles 1889 from Guernsey, a 25c 1942 Belgium coin and what looks like a south of the border coin but couldn't find it in the current would coin tome. So it might be just a token no wording other than a 5 on the reverse. Will post a photo later today, for help Iding.

Ok, I feel really dumb, but where and what is a CoinStar Reject Bin?

Front right side of the machine down towards the floor, I haven't had a chance to check it lately at the local store as it seems somebody is always using it. When I was there yesterday, they had to crack the machine as it digested something, that didn't agree with it workings.

Good for her, it is always nice when the younguns get pumped about something.

Just went thru the last two weeks of poket change in the bowl, a 1966 Rosevelt dime and a 1955 D wheatie.

Along the lines of what you should do and not do in cleaning coins. While placing an order for some storage boxes, so to make maxium use of space.

I came across this booklet in their web catalog. Granted the first thing is it is describing their products,for cleaning of coins. They had some interesting info, along with what probably some that continues to give the lemon juice/powder and the "magic agent" (Baking Soda) life in the collectors circles. Probably for new people that buy this 6 pages booklet .50¢

It also describes using their version of the ultra sonic ceaning machine.

It was more informative for what not to do to the coins. I am in no way endorsing the methods or products in this booklet

I can vouch for the simiple fact that the scrap dealers, are just as slow to rise the price they pay for all classes of scrap. When the price goes up becuase of demand, they when the price drops for say shred steel light. They will drop the pay out price in a heart beat.

As with a lot of things dealers that have higher fixed costs, will tend to hold the current prices they have. They do start to redajust the prices when the coplaints or questions become numerous.

It is the age old battle between the shop keeper and the purchaser! Shop keeper would like highest profit margin, while the buyer would like the lowest prce for the goods.

six of the adhesive stack of Ikes,got em for $3.00 bucks. so no matter what I do to them I'm still a head in the spendable dept.

Soaking in the acetone bath, I use a cat food tin with the safety type lid remover lid. An hour nothing, 12 hrs some, 24 most of the heavy crud,36 hours and a vigorous scrub with a paper towel.

This is what I got crud removed, staining in the basic shape of the adhesive left behind. One had initials scratched under Ikes chin.

I use a cheap pair of plastic type tweezers, as long as you don't leave them soaking in the acetone. I wipe them off after removing the coin. They should last a long time.

I have a reading addiction! I found hamilton book before the internet. I should own the place by now But in looking at the sale forum and somebody wanting a book. Reminded me that I should share. http://www.hamiltonb...ind=Find+%C2%BB

Up to 80% off list prices. They also have DVD's, limited CD's at the same discounts great prices on PBS, and A&E etc. networks. They are what is called a remainder seller. Be sure to read the shipping policy "Shipping charges are $3.50 per order plus $0.40 per item" "we will make a second shipment as soon as possible. We do not charge extra to make a second shipment and do not hold the shipment of available items if one item is temporarily out of stock." It is the best shipping deal around. Fast friendly service.

They currently have 21 assorted books on coins, world coins. The only drawback is they still only ship to the US.

Here is an example:

Standard CATALOG OF WORLD COINS, 1601-1700, 3RD EDITION

C. Krause & C. Mishler

Your Price $9.95

(Save $55.05)

Published at $65.00

They also have large monthly catalogs of new arrivals, and then their subject catalogs. My mailman hates to see another of their catalogs show

have no interest other than a very happy and satisfied long time customer!

I have no idea, as I have a couple of rolls worth. would be nice if the are!

For a short while as a teen I hung out at an arcade and worked for free for the guy that owned it to learn about the mech's It was a common practice so they could check on the pillfering of the change when empting the coin boxes when the own wasn't there. He caught a couple of guys skimming as they MTed the boxes.

I always have kept any I come across in change.

They also did it in some classes for local school projects back in the day when the change tended to stay in the neighborhood. I pointed out to a teacher at the building I worked at. That it doesn't work today, since the stores don't keep a lot of change around and tend to make depoists every couple of days.

Plus today in an area like Detroit with the casino's and the amount of change, changing hands if you will. It is likely to move out of the area.

The bank teller I know said that is the reason they nop longer get the dollar coins when they are issued. Presidental and others. As the volume of coinage for daily use from the casino's is so high. They have a storage problem for the coins at the armored car companies. Like across the country I understand that it is costing the gov. billons in fees to keep the coins that aren't being used.

Red paint,brown paint,black sharpie,and of course red nail polish.

you have a 1967 centenary cent, with the bird.

Have lots of them from heavy patina to bright and shinny! Waiting on the world coin books to be delivered, they are last years but will work for my needs.

These are what I pulled out of the two cups from the 60's, the shinny ones are put away and I will have to find them.

Well that cigar box of maple leaf backed pennies called my name all afternoon while trying to finish up the income taxes for us and my mother! Well after I finished the taxes, I just gave into the siren's call of the oldest date in the box. The oldest coins were two 1939's

Then has anybody sorting a hoard found one decade shows up more than others?

This is what I found in this cigar box hoard, A pretty nice haul beefore rolling em up and now the question becomes with the neighbors to the north taking the coppers out of circulation. Guess I should label and hold em for a while

is the rest of the coins along with two wheaties

My purpose in wanting the paper work, is for letting my childern know what they are so they can give a correct description, when they go to sell them. If there is a secondary market which like most of the collectible items, not much of one!

They are from the National collectors mint, Still availble from them for Under $20.00, the other thing that I thought was pretty funny. Up in the right corner of the page it has a box saying meet Barry Goldwater Jr.! With the mint phone number and his extension. Is that supposed to inspire confidence in buying from them?That he works there or owns it?

http://www.nationalcollectorsmint.com/

I would have to agree with you on the chrome job, it isn't aluminum nor steel but a copper with a coating. Some joker working at a plating place probably did them as a joke.

These are strictly, from pocket change in the Detroit area of SE Mich. The biggest reason I think most are in great condition is some of the gas station and party store owners drive to Canada when the exchange rate is in the favor of more Canadian coins for the US dollar.

Most are happy to slip one coin in at a time to change.

I love that the Canadians change their coinage often. And have some real nice looking coins.

I loved the colored inserts on the quarters, the oldest one that I can find this morning are the copper penny 1930, the silver penny 1932, and the nickle 1953. I may have some older pennies as I have a cigar box half full.

Just did a quick look, and found the 1922 sitting on top of the pile waiting for me to find it!

Recently after my father died, I have started sorting through his stuff. He wasn't a coin collector like frequent here. He bought what he liked for his own reasons.

The photo of 3 copies of a US coin that has a copy or serial number on each.

I would like to know if they are solid one ounce silver, plated /clad etc. They have the luster as the one ounce liberty's the mint sells. but no proof mark on them.

Since they were purchased for his grand children and himself.

He didn't save the paperwork that came with them. I have no clue to were even to start looking?

Can anybody help?

Thanks

Have a couple of the MPC's (Military Payment certificates) that were used in country during Nam. Were would I look for info on them or are the considered Regular currency?

Just seen the virtiual heading popped up, pretty slick!

Living in the Southeastern part of the Mitt, (Michigan for thoses that may not Know) All my life we have gotten in change Canadian coinage. It wasn't a problem till the exchange rates changed and it it dropped in value. Then the stores started posting signs @ the registers NO CANADIAN ACCEPTED! But if you didn't watch em close they had no problem slipping you some in your change!

In the early 70's with the influx of foreign nationals from one geographic region buying and running gas stations and party stores. They started a scam that a lot of store keepers, soon followed They would drive over to Windsor and when it was $125.00 Cd or better for $100.00USD they would get a couple of thousand in change. Bring it back and then slipp a coin or two in with EVERYBODY's change. It got real bad when one local station would give back .97¢ Canadian , when the bill was $1.03

But I have noticed that lately, in addition to the Canadian I have gotten, copper looking coins from Bermuda, Bahamas, Mexico and a shilling coin a long with others form parts unknown. They look like cents,nickles, dimes and quaters.

A quick glance when getting your change and then a dump in the pocket, I don't find out till I go thru the stash a couple of weeks later.

I am wondering if any others, have noticed an up turn in the foreign money being slide in to our monetary flow.

A late 1890's Indian head cent, that I got in change glad I was sitting down when I was going thru the change!

How about some thing called pro-coin that has a grading assitant built in?

The Collector's Assistant coin software and Coin Grading Assistant

New to the hobby, and wondering about this software by Carlisle, Both look great on the web sites. But was wondering if anybody uses them? And if they deliver what they claim in the descriptions. Since I am starting from no software and my experiences with other software over the years, from back in the olden days of Radio Shacks, and Timex Sinclar computers. I would like to cut out trying multiple software packages.

Any observations would be helpful, thanks