extant4cell Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Can anyone help me to figure out which coins they struck over in 1740s and 1750s when striking 2 ORE? I have a 1758 Russian coin which was struck over 2 ore of that period, but there is one small left over shadow image on the coin that does not fit 2 ore and possibly belongs to another "undercoin". It would be nice to figure it out. Thank you in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Found good site for Swedish copper coins: http://www.swedishcoppers.com/CoinTypes.htmlWhere as there as some 1 ore and 1 Kreutzer coins of Gustav II Adolf (1611-1632) that match the weight of later 2 ore or Frederick I (1720-1751) and Adolf Frederick (1751-1771) that in turn were used in Sestroretsk mint in Russian in 1757-1759 to strike 2 kopecks coins, cutting the "blanks" out of 2 ore, reducing it in size and weight to match those of 2 kopecks, the coins of Gustav II Adolf were a lot bigger in diameter than the later 2 ore. Where as it is possible that their early coins (example):1 Öre -- 1628 - 1629 -- Arrows, Type IIB Shield -- Type #19Mint: Säter, References: KM 115, SM 134a-13540-41mm, 28.3 gm...were overstruck into these later coins:2 Öre S.M. -- 1743 - 1750 -- Type #71Mint: Stockholm; References: KM 437, SM 310-31733.5-34.1 mm, 28.3 gm... as the weight matches in both coins, the size doesn't and if such an oversized coin was later cut to match the size of 2 kopecks that would reduce it's weight considerably.Copper 2 kopecks. Weight: 20,48 gram, Diameter: 31-34 mmHowever, 2 Öre S.M. -- 1743 - 1750s cut down in size matched it perfectly. 1 ore overstrikes into 1 kopeck coins are well known. 2 ore into 2 kopecks, just as common, but to find a coin with "left over", recognizable image is very difficult, and only a few of them are know. This is one of the examples that I managed to find after an exhausting search for it for many years. There is one, little part of the "after image" that doesn't match the 2 ore. If it's not from 2 ore, it may belong to the pliers that were used to hold the "blank" at some point of the production. Other than that, it's a nit fit, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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