What are the key identifying features of the VDB initials on a Lincoln penny? I'm just starting out and would love some guidance!

Hey everyone! I’ve recently dived into the world of coin collecting, and my latest fascination is with the Lincoln pennies, especially those with the VDB initials. I came across a 1909-S V.D.B. penny while browsing at a local coin show, and it sparked a hundred questions in my mind about what makes these pennies so special.

From my research, I understand that the VDB initials represent the engraver Victor David Brenner, who designed the obverse of the Lincoln penny. However, I’m curious about the specific details that can help me identify these coins. For instance, I’ve read that the initials are located at the bottom of the reverse side, but what minor features should I look for to ensure I’m not missing anything? Additionally, how does the coin’s condition affect its value, especially when it comes to V.D.B. pennies?

I’d love to hear your thoughts! What key features do you look for when verifying a V.D.B. penny? Any tips for distinguishing between the original issues versus counterfeits? Looking forward to your insights!

Great question, CoinEnthusiast42! The VDB initials can indeed be a bit tricky to spot at first, but once you know what to look for, it’s quite straightforward. First and foremost, the initials ‘V.D.B.’ are located at the bottom of the reverse side of the penny, just above the words ‘ONE CENT.’ Here are some features that can help you identify a genuine VDB penny:

  • Location of the initials: Make sure they are in the right spot—if they're anywhere else, that might indicate a counterfeit.
  • Deepness of the engraving: Genuine ones often have deeper and clearer engravings, especially in the initials.
  • Condition: Coins in higher grades, especially mint state ones, will show less wear and more detail which can help in identification.
  • Weight and Diameter: A genuine 1909-S V.D.B. penny weighs about 3.11 grams and has a diameter of 19 mm. If it feels off, it might be a replica.
Also, regarding the value, condition is critical. A Fine (F) grade can start at a few hundred bucks, while a mint state piece can easily fetch thousands!

I’d recommend checking the grading guides on sites like PCGS for additional insights. Feel free to ask more questions as you explore this fascinating area of coin collecting!

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@CoinEnthusiast42, another thing to consider with counterfeit identification is the surface texture. Genuine VDB pennies often have a slightly different patina compared to modern coins. Taking a closer look under different lights can help reveal subtle differences. Just to add a personal experience—I’ve come across a few counterfeits at shows, and they usually feel ‘too smooth’ for my liking. Good luck with your hunt!

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As a newcomer myself, I found it helpful to get a good magnifying glass. The details on the coin can sometimes be hidden even by minor wear, and examining it closely can help you spot the VDB initials. Plus, investing in a decent book about coin grading can be invaluable. I feel like I’m still learning something new every day! What about you, CoinEnthusiast42, do you have a collection already?

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Thanks @PennyCollector22! I don’t have a full collection just yet, but I’m starting with the Lincoln pennies since they have so much history. I’ve read some books too, and I agree, they really help! What books do you recommend?

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One key detail to keep in mind is the die variety. There are different die varieties for the VDB, and knowing about them can save you a lot of time and confusion. For instance, the 1909-S V.D.B. penny is highly sought after due to its limited mintage. Make sure you cross-reference any penny you’re interested in with resources like NGC for verification. Do you have specific dates or grades in mind you’re looking for?

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Thanks for the tip, @CollectorMike! I didn’t realize there were different die varieties. I’m mainly focused on the 1909-S V.D.B. that I found at a show, but now I’m curious about other years too! What are some die varieties I should be aware of?

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Glad to see your enthusiasm! The die varieties can indeed change a coin’s value significantly. For the Lincoln pennies specifically, you might want to look into:

  • 1909 V.D.B. without the 'S'- it’s less common but still very valuable.
  • 1910-S V.D.B. – another rarer one.
  • 1914-D – famous for its scarcity.
You can find more about these varieties on the respective grading sites or in reputable collector guides. Always happy to help out fellow collectors!
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Counterfeits can be a pain, can’t they? I’ve seen some really convincing ones out there! If you’re ever in doubt, just post a picture of the coin on the forum and we can help look at it together. It’s amazing how many eyes can spot something small that you might miss. Community is key!

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That’s a great idea, @CoinCollectingFun! I’ll definitely share pictures if I find more coins. It’s reassuring to know there’s a supportive community here to help with these concerns!

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You know you’re a true collector when your penny jar has more value than your wallet! :joy: Just kidding! But really, keep a close eye on condition and authenticity. That’s what I love about this hobby—the thrill of the hunt!

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Haha, @JokingJules88, that’s a great joke! I’m sure many of us can relate! And it’s true, even pennies can hold significant value if you know what to look for!

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