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Very impressive collection and such an interesting subject!!! Thanks a lot for sharing with us!!!

Could you tell me, please, how did this token system actually work? Was it a partial (or full) payment by tokens to workmen their salary, or, they were needed to buy the items, first, and then make payments using the tokens? Any information about token payment systems you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Hello, friends!

 

Recently I have bought a double eagle dated 1904 (mint mark "S"). Weight is OK, thickness seems to be OK too, but the diameter is almost 34,3 mm. Is such a deviation from the nominal (34.00 mm) diameter normal for this types of coins? Or, it is definitely counterfeit?...

 

And there is another thing. The rim of the coin has a slightly sloped (like filed) edge. So, is such a slope a result of edging at the official mint? Or, it is another sign of spuriousness?..

 

I really need your feedback and explanations. Particularly appeal to connoisseurs and experts on this type of coin.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Hello Andy,

The coin looks fine to me. I'm pretty sure it's not a fake.

 

 

Monogram is a stylized Cyrillic letter N (like Latin H), so it could be attributed to either Nicholas I or to his great-grandson, Nicholas II. There are no other Russian Tsars with name beginning with the letter N. However, the crown style would rather be associated with N I than with N II. This piece with the size of 21+ mm in diameter should not be related to a coin. Neither 1 kopek nor 1/2 kopek (some types ~ 21 mm) were made with this style of monogram+crown. However, the similar style presents on many medals and jetons of N I and N II. Moreover, many manufactures were licensed to produce medals, jetons, decorations etc with tsar's monograms, portraits and so on. So, I might suggest that this piece is related to a part of some kind of decoration, commemorative jeton or something similar to. Of course, I could be wrong.

Thank you for sharing. What clues are there that tell us that this is electrolysis?

Hi thedeadpoint,

Sorry for the confusion I mean this coin made by electrotyping.

The coin edge, of course, supports this conclusion

On this microphoto of the edge, one can see the rest of longitudinal tracks and many scratches, typical, if someone was trying to hide soldering signs. The similar features are everywhere around the edge.

Unfortunately, the picture is in b & w, but actual color, I see on the edge, looks like a brass color.

So, it's a "sandwich" with top and bottom parts made from brass by electrotyping and the space between them is filled with some cn-pb solder to make the right weight. Then it was plated with silver.

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Weight is exactly 2.5 g, Diameter = 18 mm

Maybe somebody will be interested in this information.

This coin is a fake and has been made by use of electrolysis, and whoever made, it is quite well skilled.

So, please pay close attention to this specific coin if you will decide to buy one.

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