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Moscow mint and the proof versions of the 1980 Olympic set

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I am trying to confirm whether the Moscow mint made proof versions of all of the 1980 Olympic set. I have been looking for the Moscow mint version of the coin below for years to no avail. I have the Moscow BU version and both versions from the Leningrad mint. I recently wrote a big EBAY dealer to see if he could find the Moscow proof issue and he indicated that his Russian coin expert said Moscow never produced the proof version of this coin. I searched the forum and found one related post that said Moscow did not produce all of the proof coins but no specifics on which were and were not produced. Note the Krause SCWC and the Polcyzk book on sport coins indicate that both mints produced both versions. Does anyone have a definitive source that answers the question one way or another?

 

 

 

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If anyone happens to have the Moscow mint proof version, I will be more than happy to pay above Krause value.

 

regards

 

Mark

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1) I am trying to confirm whether the Moscow mint made proof versions of all of the 1980 Olympic set.

 

2) I have been looking for the Moscow mint version of the coin below for years to no avail.

 

3) Russian coin expert said Moscow never produced the proof version of this coin.

 

4) I searched the forum and found one related post that said Moscow did not produce all of the proof coins but no specifics on which were and were not produced. Does anyone have a definitive source that answers the question one way or another?

 

1) Yes.

Except platinum 150-roubles coins which were minted only at Leningrad mint.

Also copper-nickel 1 rouble coins (which were produced in 3 variants: UNC, BU and Proof) were minted without designation of mint - so it is not widely known, whether which variant of which type was minted at one of 2 mints or maybe at both.

 

2) You were just probably unlucky.

For example here you can see some recent sales of the coin you are looking for at Moscow internet auctions, all below USD 25.

 

3) Are you sure that guy was really an "expert"?

It was definitely produced, as it has it's unique catalogue number of Russia's Central Bank (no.3112-0016; while UNC variant has no.3112-015).

 

Here's the picture:

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4) There are specialised catalogues devoted to USSR commemorative coins.

As for example book of Shirokov, Sorokin, Zolotarev on Soviet 1965-1991 commemorative coins.

This book (2012 edition) is available for order in the internet for less than USD 30 including shipping.

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Is there a way for me to participate in the Moscow internet auctions safely?

 

Why not?

Although I'd advice to check in advance whether auction (or individual seller) will agree to ship abroad.

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