gxseries Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 While I was looking through some of the Russian coins and images that I had, there were some that I definately wasn't paying attention until I looked VERY hard. One of which was the example of the counterfeited 1830 ruble that I was fooled into. Such is the example of this: 1759 2k over 1755 1k over 1727 5 kopeks, which was discussed here: Link Because of the extreme nature and bruteness of overstriking, years usually get wiped and it is already quite difficult to get three years on a single coin, although what is more amazing is if you can even find a mintmark under cruelty. And just a few days ago, I think I just found it - just located 15 degrees off the St. George's helmet, leftwards, there seems to be the mintmark: This is quite undeniably the mintmark of MMD, or the Moscow Mint. I cannot help to say that I am quite overwhelmed over what I have, and I still thank Banivechi for this Another coin that I wasn't paying attention to was a coin that I bought while I was still in Moscow and thought it was too expensive. I think I picked it up for 6-10 dollars but with this novelty and it's aUNC condition, I am quite happy to say that I DID bought it. At first glance, you would not really notice much, but here is a larger image: Notice at the denomination 50 and the hammer and sickle area at the obverse. This is indeed quite clear that a die clash has occured, like what Tane has! Ironically, I didn't notice this error until quite recently... which is over 3 years since I bought it... Morale of the story - do check what you have bought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Wait, typically, are not errors supposed to bring up the value of the coin? (Naive me - ready to learn.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted April 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Yes, all mint errors do bring up values, although I am not too sure if there is really any mint errors that actually decrease their values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 This is quite undeniably the mintmark of MMD, or the Moscow Mint. 1755-ММД 1k. This makes sense because the 1755-57 "Eagle in Clouds" design undertype was itself an overstrike and I think that it was the overstruck examples of this type that carried a mintmark, while those struck on new blanks did not (I seem to remember reading that somewhere). Good observation. You are lucky to have such an unusual coin with the 3 legible dates and a mintmark as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 (increase vs. decrease in value due to mint errors)If you include things like clipped planchets, striking through grease-filled areas, etc. then the value might even decrease depending on the severity of the error. Die breaks are usually innocuous and merely curiosities. Die clashes, while never decreasing a coin's value, also seldom increase its value but are nevertheless interesting. Error collectors might pay a little more for a nice coin with a die clash. Sometimes, die clashes are important in determining things like a Morgan dollar VAM variety. But most of the VAMs don't contribute much, if aything, to a coin's value, only the sought-after ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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