bobbycoin Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Looking for more info on these then the sellers can give: "it appears to be copper and is British, dated 1720, Says Brittania on front, and back seems to say George...rest is unreadable. Had a hole drilled in it unfortunately since it was on a very old necklace with the other coin I have listed, but seems to be authentic.I am more than willing to verify with coin dealer if requested." I hoping this is one of the Poem series: "Beautiful and unique Japanese coin. Brought to US by family member who lived in Japan after WWII as Military. Found in family coin collection that was inherited. " "Beautiful early Japanese coin. 100 Mon (Tenpo Tsuho) 1 1/4 by 1 3/4 in large. Emblem of a cherry blossom at bottom of one side. Brass." "Vintage Joannes Paulus II Medal- Made In Italy." Thanks for any info, -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbycoin Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Doing some searching myself I found number 1 to be A Halfpenny. -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbycoin Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 #3 is as advertised a Japanese 100 Mon... from what I can tell there are many varieties of this. Most worth very little, very few worth a lot. -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMS Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 #2 would appear to be a Korean mun pre-1900. Depending on the size, it could be pre-1800 (still only worth a dollar as far as I know. And, yes, #3 is a Japanese 100 mon dating between 1837-70. I think I should mention, also, you have the obverse of both those coins upside-down And are you sure that's not a George I farthing? And that medal...well...I don't do medals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Yep, #2 is Korean. That obverse type was used from 1633-1883, but I don't have a Korean cash-specific book that would allow me to further date/idnetify the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbycoin Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Thanks for the info guys. SMS, Im not sure of anything Looking at the Halfpenny in the link I posted I was almost sure, but looking up George I farthings they also look similar. My Collectors Coins of GB book doesnt go back that far so I will have to wait to have it in hand and hopefully determine by size and maybe more details. As for the asian coins being up side down.... good to know, these are the sellers images from the auction though. When I take my pics Ill turn them around As for the medal.... If no one has any info here, Ill post if over in the Exonumia forum. Thanks again, -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlavicScott Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 SMS, Im not sure of anything Looking at the Halfpenny in the link I posted I was almost sure, but looking up George I farthings they also look similar. My Collectors Coins of GB book doesnt go back that far so I will have to wait to have it in hand and hopefully determine by size and maybe more details. -Bobby It is a farthing. The position of the letters tell the tale. On farthings, the S (of Georgivs) is at the left of the laurel, about 12 o'clock. On halfpennies, the S is far to the right of the bust, about 1 o'clock. Also, the twig Britannia is holding on the reverse. On farthings, the twig separates the A & N of Britannia, while on the halfpennies, the twig in just inside the T, and does not interrupt the spacing of the letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlavicScott Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 See Tony Clayton's site for an image of a nice 1720 farthing, and compare with a 1719 halfpenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burks Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I like the Pope medal, very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogy Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 See Tony Clayton's site for an image of a nice 1720 farthing, and compare with a 1719 halfpenny (in my best Darth Vadar voice) "Luke, I am your Farthing......." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 (in my best Darth Vadar voice) "Luke, I am your Farthing......." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbycoin Posted March 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Recieved a package from the seller of the Farthing with a 1836 British Four Pence instead of the coin I purchased. I emailed the seller, the responce was quite prompt. The seller stated they would send the correct coin and I could keep this one. Free stuff rules! -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Recieved a package from the seller of the Farthing with a 1836 British Four Pence instead of the coin I purchased. I emailed the seller, the responce was quite prompt. The seller stated they would send the correct coin and I could keep this one. Free stuff rules! -Bobby That's a nice outcome to the error. Sounds like a good seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomodachi Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 The bottom picture of the Japanese cash coin (1 mon) is upside down. Reading top to bottom, right to left, it says "Dzo Hei Ni Yon", most likely indicating that it was cast in the 24th year of the Dzo Hei era. There doesn't appear to be a match anywhere in the 2006 JNDA catalog and I haven't found a matching Nengo (Era Name) in any of my sources, which are far from complete. The characters on the other side are illegible from wear. The 100 mon, in that condition, is essentially worthless. They are very common in much better condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbycoin Posted March 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 The bottom picture of the Japanese cash coin (1 mon) is upside down. Reading top to bottom, right to left, it says "Dzo Hei Ni Yon", most likely indicating that it was cast in the 24th year of the Dzo Hei era. There doesn't appear to be a match anywhere in the 2006 JNDA catalog and I haven't found a matching Nengo (Era Name) in any of my sources, which are far from complete. The characters on the other side are illegible from wear. The 100 mon, in that condition, is essentially worthless. They are very common in much better condition. Thank you again to everyone who provided information on these. tomodachi - Welcome to the Forum. These are the sellers pics and SMS had pointed out the upsidedowness of them. I will disagree on the worthlessness of the 100 mon as it is one of the larger coins in my collection. It will most likely go into the section for oddly shapped coins. Maybe a future pocket piece, im sure it will spark many of conversations. An update on the Farthing/4pence tale. the Seller Emailed me and stated she may have lost the coin. She states she will look again and if she can not find it she has offered to refund my money +$5. -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMS Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 The bottom picture of the Japanese cash coin (1 mon) is upside down. Reading top to bottom, right to left, it says "Dzo Hei Ni Yon", most likely indicating that it was cast in the 24th year of the Dzo Hei era. I've not heard of a Dzo Hei era. Perhaps just a difference in translating it to roman characters. Do you mean the Shohei era? 24th year would put that at 1370AD. I think gxseries should be able to qualify the era for us if he sees this My Craig catalog only goes as far back as the Kyoho era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I honestly doubted that it was a Japanese coin, and I am somewhat right. I was betting that it was a Chinese coin, but it seemed I am horribly wrong A quick check on google seem to reveal that it's a... Korean coin, which is possible as Korea used to be part of China. http://guixun.nease.net/kuanyongchangping/chaoxian.htm I can't seem to be able to locate the year for it, but it might be around 1600-1700s. But judging from the "fresh" strike, it might seen awfully new, like probably 1800-1900, which might make this coin some kind of fantasy coin but so far I cannot prove either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbycoin Posted March 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Just recieved the Farthing in the mail with a nice note thanking me for my patience. Thats a Pos Feedback right there. -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coinsnpaper Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 The Korean coin is a SonHyeChong (Rice and Cloth Department) issue of 1742-1752, according to Mandel. His numbering M10.12-6. The top character is the mint, (Son) and the bottom character is Chu (infinite time). Probably a value 2- a little bigger than a quarter? KM184 The reverse(2 characters) is upright, the obverse (4 characters) is upside down. During this time period Korea was formally a Chinese vassal state, but actually was quite independant. Korea was the hermit Kingdom, and China was the home of the emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coinsnpaper Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I think I will change my mind on that one- try the mint OYongChong (Special Army Unit). It appearantly comes in several sizes, value 2 large or small. The bottom character is Chu. Other comments and date still apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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