French Hammered ID

[Peter]

Does anyone know of a decent web site or reference book for French Hammered.

I'm googled out.

 

In particular these two images..

 

I found a similar shield on a Jean Sans Peur (John the fearless Duke of Burgundy)

so I assume it is from this series?

http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view.aspx?id=905951

 

I think this is a Billion Denier late 13C

http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view.aspx?id=904150

 

ANY help would be greatly appreciated

[Scottishmoney]

You'll find out as soon as our resident Francophile in Scotland logs on.

[Ian]

Does anyone know of a decent web site or reference book for French Hammered.

I'm googled out.

 

In particular these two images..

 

I found a similar shield on a Jean Sans Peur (John the fearless Duke of Burgundy)

so I assume it is from this series?

http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view.aspx?id=905951

 

I think this is a Billion Denier late 13C

http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view.aspx?id=904150

 

ANY help would be greatly appreciated

 

 

A book you will want to get hold of if you continue to be interested in such pieces is `The Silver Coins of Medieval France (476-1610AD)' by James N Roberts.

 

Can you tell me the size of the first coin?

 

It looks to me that the obverse legend is PHILIP DUX BURG and the reverse is MONETA FLANDRIAE. That is, a coin minted for Flanders under Philip of Burgundy (1384 -1404). If it had been John the obv legend would have started IOHS.

 

Ian

[Ian]

PS: The second one is definitely an issue of the Bishops of Valence during the 13th century. Obverse legend reads URBS VALENTIN. The obverse image is a small angel / bird.

 

Ian

[Peter]

Thanks for the responses.

The coin is 19/20mm dia. (Ed 1d size)

It has a copperish tinge which would indicate quite high debasement of silver.

[Ian]

Thanks for the responses.

The coin is 19/20mm dia. (Ed 1d size)

It has a copperish tinge which would indicate quite high debasement of silver.

 

Yep. That ties in with what I was looking at. Certainly Philip of Burgundy issued for Flanders.

 

I've no idea what the actual silver content is, but i'd be surprised if it was low enough to categorise as `billon'. You might be right of course, but bear in mind that many of these pieces have developed a copper looking patina to them over the centuries....but that's all it is. Nothing that a couple of minutes with a dremel wouldn't get rid of (just kidding).

 

Ian