DAJ Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Hello - I was scanning things and came across this coin. It is very interesting and a very old novodel. Does anyone have any thoughts on this coin? Experiences or does anyone have images to share. Any proud owners? Novodels interest me. And for one to be so old. Seems odd and even a little mysterious. Thanks much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViFi Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Hello, there are no pictures attached? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJ Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 That is it! I was having trouble getting an image. This looks similar to the Numista image at https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces114409.html What are our thoughts on this? Thanks, Eugene. I am eager to receive your magnum opus book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 I am not much into novodel coins. Hope to hear other coinpeople opinions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViFi Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Hello I have 2 such roubles in my collection: one silver and one copper. The copper one is most rare. It is not described in most of the catalogs. I like these coins very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Very outstanding items indeed With the slight wear they show novodels don't come to mind. Did these yefimki circulate? Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViFi Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Even called Novodels, those coins were made most probably in Ekatherina II period. So wear is normal for them. Novodels were prohibited to make in 1890. At that time most of the original stamps were destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViFi Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, sigistenz said: Did these yefimki circulate? Sigi I do not think those were yefimki. Novodels were stamped on new blanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 How to explain the wear? Did these rubles go into circulation, maybe as pyatak and ruble? Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViFi Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, sigistenz said: How to explain the wear? Did these rubles go into circulation, maybe as pyatak and ruble? Sigi Good question! It can be they were in circulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJ Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 From what I seen many show wear. Beautiful! Was wondering about age so this looks like Catherine II. Very interesting. thanks and congrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Possible 19th century strike for copper, poltina was in my collection for several and I sold small collection of rare novodels include poltina and ruble since my collection wasn't improved for years.I believed one original silver is in Russian museum . I remember 2nd ruble described as original sold in Prokop collection,it was discussion later about about identification of authenticity.I didn't review coin personally and the images from catalog was very poor quality. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr1987 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 I have one silver. It looks like the one from HA same details in face and back but I am not sure if is the original or copy someone have picture or descriptions from the edge for this coin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leendert Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Remember at that time payment was by weight of the coin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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