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Hi Tommy. I think I'd push it a bit and go Good 4. Looks like some rim damage on the reverse that might lead some folks to move to AG3 or even lower.

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33 views and only one guess -- it might mean that everyone agrees with you Art -- and everyone would be wrong! To an advanced numismatist, this coin speaks volumes and would be considered an absolute treasure!...

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33 views and only one guess -- it might mean that everyone agrees with you Art -- and everyone would be wrong! To an advanced numismatist, this coin speaks volumes and would be considered an absolute treasure!...

 

So tell us.

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This coin is likely XF-AU -- the "wear" is actually on the dies and not the coin itself -- note the difference in the Lincoln's head from this piece and an AG or G other coin. These 1922 cents were the result of a focus by the powers that were in Philadelphia to bang out the new Peace Dollar -- the Denver Mint was left with an order to still produce another half-million cents -- but no new cent dies would be forthcoming! In effect, 'make due with what you have'! The old dies were polished, over-polished, cracking, disintegrating -- the wheat stalks were 'mushing' into the rims, and in some cases the mint mark was even lost. That being the case, the Denver Mint would have been aware that their desperation to fill their order for cents was causing a coin with no mint-mark at some point -- making the '22 'plain' or 'no-D' a VARIETY and not an ERROR...back to the coin -- note the detail of Lincoln's head - the separations between beard, cheekbone and forehead - on a worn coin these are essentially flattened together. Also note the deterioration of Lincoln's shoulder as the die was breaking up and the loss of lettering and detail on the flatter surfaces...the letters RTY and TRUST were reportedly re-engraved -- desperate times certainly produced desperate measures...this coin says it all.....

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This coin is likely XF-AU -- the "wear" is actually on the dies and not the coin itself -- note the difference in the Lincoln's head from this piece and an AG or G other coin. These 1922 cents were the result of a focus by the powers that were in Philadelphia to bang out the new Peace Dollar -- the Denver Mint was left with an order to still produce another half-million cents -- but no new cent dies would be forthcoming! In effect, 'make due with what you have'! The old dies were polished, over-polished, cracking, disintegrating -- the wheat stalks were 'mushing' into the rims, and in some cases the mint mark was even lost. That being the case, the Denver Mint would have been aware that their desperation to fill their order for cents was causing a coin with no mint-mark at some point -- making the '22 'plain' or 'no-D' a VARIETY and not an ERROR...back to the coin -- note the detail of Lincoln's head - the separations between beard, cheekbone and forehead - on a worn coin these are essentially flattened together. Also note the deterioration of Lincoln's shoulder as the die was breaking up and the loss of lettering and detail on the flatter surfaces...the letters RTY and TRUST were reportedly re-engraved -- desperate times certainly produced desperate measures...this coin says it all.....

 

Wonderful Tommy. This takes great study and knowledge. Very interesting and something that is totally new to me.

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o.O

 

You know, if I had seen this listed on the Bay of E as an XF-AU, I would have started a thread here with many, many laughing smilies... learn something new every day!

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o.O

 

You know, if I had seen this listed on the Bay of E as an XF-AU, I would have started a thread here with many, many laughing smilies... learn something new every day!

Funny you should mention the Bay of E -- I bought this coin as a GOOD, realizing that some people just don't do their homework!

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That being said, what would a tpg apply to this coin? I'm curious if they take into account the die deterioration or if they simply ignore those factors and slap a G-4 on it...

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This coin is likely XF-AU -- the "wear" is actually on the dies and not the coin itself -- note the difference in the Lincoln's head from this piece and an AG or G other coin. These 1922 cents were the result of a focus by the powers that were in Philadelphia to bang out the new Peace Dollar -- the Denver Mint was left with an order to still produce another half-million cents -- but no new cent dies would be forthcoming! In effect, 'make due with what you have'! The old dies were polished, over-polished, cracking, disintegrating -- the wheat stalks were 'mushing' into the rims, and in some cases the mint mark was even lost. That being the case, the Denver Mint would have been aware that their desperation to fill their order for cents was causing a coin with no mint-mark at some point -- making the '22 'plain' or 'no-D' a VARIETY and not an ERROR...back to the coin -- note the detail of Lincoln's head - the separations between beard, cheekbone and forehead - on a worn coin these are essentially flattened together. Also note the deterioration of Lincoln's shoulder as the die was breaking up and the loss of lettering and detail on the flatter surfaces...the letters RTY and TRUST were reportedly re-engraved -- desperate times certainly produced desperate measures...this coin says it all.....

 

So dew appreciate this site ! So much to learn in regards to coins overall ... Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

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