constanius Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 What an amazing, once in a lifetime, discovery! Firstly I brought this, which is an extremelly rare 1837 Victoria ascension medal BHM#1769 RRR. Brown states that the reverse birthdate is May 14 1819, an error but this reverse has May 24, the correct date. Either a variant or Brown made an error. I found the portrait of special interest because of the way the head is thrust forward, it is unlike any of the other early Victoria medals that I am aware of. You can see that the die was damaged by the miss-struck central portion of the medal. Then, just a day later I saw & purchased this, a 1838 Victoria Coronation medal, because it was unlisted & because of the similarities between the 2 portraits & the exact same inscription. There are some glaringly obvious differences, the pearled head band, dangling ear-ring, hair-line etc. Neither of the medals are in my possesion, they are still in transit, but I became convinced by the sellers pictures that they were both struck using the same obverse die, albeit the second later medal after the die was further engraved to hide the damage. Now, whether you are convinced like me or not I do not know but if you do have any doubts that they were struck using the same obverse die please see the following group of pictures. The middle image is a superimposed-composite of the 2 outer medals & shows that the damaged die was further engraved, so as to remove the damage area, & it was then used again for the later medal, leaving Victoria with puffier cheeks, a higher cheek bone and bejeweled, though the neck, truncation, facial profile, denticles & inscription all remain exactly the same. Who's a clever boy then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I am genuinely impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Isn't it cool to do the research on numismatic items? The chase for information, facts, theory, or even speculation is almost as fun as the chase for the medal or coin itself. Such a wonderful hobby! Congrats on the aquisition and new theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 You guys... who knew cameras and photography software were such big players in the hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hiho Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Constanius, you are a regular coin detective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 She looks so much like her uncle William IV on that portrait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Awesome, Pat. I'm jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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