family629 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I have recently come into a coin to which I know is rare to a certain degree, and I am trying to figure out if the coin is real or not. I weigthed the coin and is comes in at 25.7 would that be an indicator for it being real or not. I have read the coin UNC should be 26.43 and within a .100-.200 would be about right. Everything else I have researched appeas to be good, what else can I look at without having to pay 100 to PCGS? Can someone help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRnholio Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 A simple magnet test would determine if it's a non-silver magnetic alloy (some common Chinese fakes are of magnetic alloys). Posting as good of quality of a picture as you can would be most helpful too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family629 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 A simple magnet test would determine if it's a non-silver magnetic alloy (some common Chinese fakes are of magnetic alloys). Posting as good of quality of a picture as you can would be most helpful too. Thank you I have just ried that and magnet just slides off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family629 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I tried the magnet test and it simply falls off. Nothing in it magnetic at all. All the pictures I try to download are to big to download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stilson Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Post it to Photobucket then post the direct link to here. Also you may want to look a VamWorld to see if you can compare it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family629 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Thank you I will try it now. http://s1093.photobucket.com/albums/i427/family629/ This is the direct link. I hope this will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family629 Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Thank you for the website as far as I can see things lok to line up, but at the same time I am new to this and happen to come across this coin and do not know enought about this to really say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Your pictures are not really sharp enough to evaluate as needed. Pay very close attention to the shape and the nipple on the lower loop in the 5 in the date. Your picture does not appear to show that nipple. The base of the 1 also does not appear to show the correct alignment with the denticles along the rim, although your picture cuts off too much for a full evaluation. There are other diagnostics, but they cannot be read from your photos. 12,000 regular strikes were made and all were reported melted. No regular strikes have ever been confirmed to my knowledge. 800+ proofs were made from two obverse dies and one reverse die. All so called regular strikes known to date (again in so far as I know) are circulated examples of one of the two proofs (10+ recorded examples). Yours does not seem to show any evidence of a proof strike, although again the images are too soft to really tell. Start with the 5. If your 5 does not exactly match one of the two images on the VAM ste, you have a counterfeit. Counterfeits are common for this date, either actual counterfeits or 1895 O with the O removed (beneath the wreath on the reverse). It could also be an 1895 S with the S removed, but that would have been a really stupid thing to do as they are valuable with the S in their own right. Good luck, but I suspect you have a counterfeit. If everything appears to exactly match what you see on the VAM site, then I would get the coin authenticated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family629 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Thank you very much for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stilson Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 A lot of things look odd. The denticles (Teeth looking deals toward the edge. ) They seem to be too irregular on the obverse and reverse. The section between the legs seems to fade out and the claws seem to not have detail. (Could be picture) The eagles right wing seems to have a bare spot. That can happen on an over polished die, but none like that show up on the PCGS site like that. Check the "all images" link just above the pictures. The cracks toward the left wing tip also should not be there. Having what appears to be luster on the coin but a lot of the details gone. I doubt if its real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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