coin1815 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Hello everyone! I need your opinion about 1743 SPB (overdate on 1742) Elizabeth ruble. The coin looks very nice, however I have some doubts about its authenticity. The portrait is of SPB type but Elizabeth's head seems to me to be more likely of Moscow type. The edge says Moscow mint. "МОСКОВОТОТО^^^МАНЕТНОТО^ДВОРА^^^^" is exact inscription. 174 3 over 2 seems to be overdate on the die used to strike this coin. On the obverse one can notice double line of Elizabeth's hair, forehead and cross in the crown and letters in the inscription. Double strike? On the reverse I can see some kind of seams on 5 and 10 o'clock. But I don't know what it is. I would appreciate your opinion. Link to the coin pictures https://picasaweb.google.com/101325566058712251305/Elizabeth17432?authkey=Gv1sRgCMG1g7ytqoWiTg# Thanks a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4965577 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Hello everyone! I need your opinion about 1743 SPB (overdate on 1742) Elizabeth ruble. The coin looks very nice, however I have some doubts about its authenticity. The portrait is of SPB type but Elizabeth's head seems to me to be more likely of Moscow type. The edge says Moscow mint. "МОСКОВОТОТО^^^МАНЕТНОТО^ДВОРА^^^^" is exact inscription. 174 3 over 2 seems to be overdate on the die used to strike this coin. On the obverse one can notice double line of Elizabeth's hair, forehead and cross in the crown and letters in the inscription. Double strike? On the reverse I can see some kind of seams on 5 and 10 o'clock. But I don't know what it is. I would appreciate your opinion. Link to the coin pictures https://picasaweb.google.com/101325566058712251305/Elizabeth17432?authkey=Gv1sRgCMG1g7ytqoWiTg# Thanks a lot. Fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Agree with 4965577 ,coin not original . Rarenum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coin1815 Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thank for your help. The topic is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 This is an interesting piece. The Chinese counterfeiters have been making, for several years, a series of Moscow roubles for 1742–1755. In this case, however, they changed the mintmark to that of St. Petersburg. This is easily detected because the dies are identical except for the mintmark and date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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