bobh Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 "Rassia" (which is not the Czech word for Russia or Russian) Actually, the pronunciation of «Россия» ("Rossiya" = "Russia" in Russian) is closer to "Rassia" than "Rossia" because the "o", being an unaccented syllable before the accented syllable, is pronounced like an "a" as in German "Gasse" (i.e. pronunciation is like "Rassíya" with the accent on the "i"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Actually, the pronunciation of «Россия» ("Rossiya" = "Russia" in Russian) is closer to "Rassia" than "Rossia" because the "o", being an unaccented syllable before the accented syllable, is pronounced like an "a" as in German "Gasse" (i.e. pronunciation is like "Rassíya" with the accent on the "i"). Russia in Chech is "Rusko", and Russian = "Rus", same in Slovak (I used to live there in 70-s). The seller must be from former Soviet states. There are a lot of Unkainian, Russian, and Belorusian people live there now. I'd say, that the guy who sells under that name is probably a little illitarate and has written as he hears it, not as it is written. "Rossiya" pronounced more like "Rasiya" with "a" pronounced as "u" in "ugly" and "ss" pronounced very short as single "s" by half Russian people, myself included... That gives so many ways of making a mistake (!!) as Rasia, Rusia, Rasiya, Rusiya, Rossia, Rosiya etc... Russia is written "Rossia" (Россия) in Russian, so another mistake that he could have made, would be, not knowing how to translate, and as he heard Russia called "Russia" in English movies, he could have written it as "Rassia", as "a" in Russian is pronounced as "u" in Russia. Brrr... Too much is written here now... Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopeikin Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 is it an authentic NOVODEL coin? If it is how NOVODEL which supposed to be made for rare coin collectors could have so much wear. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574633083&toolid=10001&campid=5335826004&customid=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg&icep_item=200877603199 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 This is why I started my interest in Novodel Denga's. Had this on my watch. It looks as authentic looking Novodel, and comparable to other known Novodel dies of Type 2 (http://coins.su/forum/index.php?showtopic=99414&st=25) ... However, I decided against buying this Novodel. That's the point of Novodels, having a copy of a coin in a really good condition UNC condition... Novodels, not coins per say, they are official fake coins that look good. If it was an original coin in this condition, it would be an extremely rare find, but they didn't make original coins in this year (http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php?/topic/33230-are-there-different-1762-novodel-pattern-denga-coin-types/page__fromsearch__1) Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 is it an authentic NOVODEL coin? If it is how NOVODEL which supposed to be made for rare coin collectors could have so much wear. http://www.ebay.com/...=item2ec53cf97f It was made a long time ago. Remember what happened in 1917? 1941? Collectors die, dynasties fail, collections get lost and forgotten. IMHO every coin that got to our days in MS condition is a small miracle! My guess is that this coin probably ended up in kids' hands for some time, being played with and traded for other toys. Hence the wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 It sold well - 669! http://www.ebay.com/itm/200877603199 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Here's a nice coin but I'm surprised that NGC thought it is BM?! http://www.ebay.com/itm/330861542841 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I had it in my watch, didn't bid on it though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Here's a nice coin but I'm surprised that NGC thought it is BM?! http://www.ebay.com/itm/330861542841 The slabbers just adopted the paying customer's wishful thinking. In fact the coin is clearly EM - as can be seen from the ciphers 2 (of 2 kopek and 1862). Both coins are depicted in Michailovich and can be compared there . The ciphers 2 are very different with BM and EM. Just another mistake of the slab industry - but who cares anymore? Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I think NGC got too big for their shoes. I think they just can't afford to actually look at the coins they slab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1760-Russia-2-Kopeks-lettered-edge-/330863673382?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=4mCYooEM56Yu8XQJmpnEpDGgyFk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc why did this 1760 2K go so high? Am i missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Vintage coin cell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 http://www.ebay.com/...cvip=true&rt=nc why did this 1760 2K go so high? Am i missing something? Because I wanted it, but someone else wanted it more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 were you thinking Moscow lettered edge, Alex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 No, I just wanted one. I seriously doubt that this could be anything but Ekaterinburg edge. This coin is struck at Ekaterinburg, and I don't think they had a lot of Moscow Mint coins there. I've seen a few 1760 with the denomination above St. George, and always lost. So I just wanted to get this one, but once again I lost. Overall they are not that common. And I really wanted to win it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I was watching it, thinking it might be a 75 buck coin but was surprised to see it go over 150 Condition is quite nice. Sorry you didnt get it, Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yeah, looked like it had a lot of detail, but it could have been corroded. The picture was not clear. Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Nice coin: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574633083&toolid=10001&campid=5335826004&customid=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg&icep_item=160961983999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I like this one as well: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574633083&toolid=10001&campid=5335826004&customid=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg&icep_item=200882905512 A lot of excitement for a Monday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I had the last one in my watch as well, again didn't bid. I didn't research it, but it looked 90% like a copy to me... Here are another couple of interested items: http://www.ebay.com....=item589b486c06 http://www.ebay.com....=item1c2f888aeb What do you think? Not my cup of tea, but I am curious... and this one is for a lough (very happy Nicolas!): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I like those 1920's trade tokens! Although, I believe that there are pretty good imitations of the Moose series. Don't own any of them myself. I only have this one and an Armavir 3 roubles: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 This just does not look good! The seller states that the coin is a fake yet the auction is very busy with what appears to be shill bidders: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271143657134 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 It looks like a horrible fake... But people on eBay don't care anymore... They buy ANYTHING as long as it is shinny and resembles a very unusual extra rare coin... Is collecting fakes becoming popular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Here is another interesting item made with electrotyping (galvanoplastic):http://www.ebay.com....984.m1438.l2649 (5 kop) And another one that was made in recent times: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390523779391?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (1825 copper polupoltinik) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 where does it go ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/181071454364?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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