russia_coins Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 What do you think about this coin ? Is it original ? Personally I think so. But the edge is strange, maybe just polished or ex-jewelry ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 What do you think about this coin ? Is it original ? Personally I think so. But the edge is strange, maybe just polished or ex-jewelry ? looks geniune to me too, edge has littlel blurry pic, also hard to say from a pic itself if it was used for jewerly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marv Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 looks geniune to me too, edge has littlel blurry pic, also hard to say from a pic itself if it was used for jewerly It's suspicious to me because the degree of wear on the tablet side is not commensurate with the wear pattern on the obverse. Why would a coin be worn like that? The only possible explanation would be that the die was severely bowed and the tablet side wasn't struck up, but it doesn't seem right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russia_coins Posted November 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 I'm unable to read any letters or numbers on the edge... I didn't see any remainings of mounting. Anyhow, is this edge condition common ? Here's another pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russia_coins Posted November 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Yes, the wear is unequal but I think this type of wear is common on the tablet if I'm not mistaken, because of the strike weakness. Same type of wear is seen on Alexander I 1802-1809 roubles. Anyways, is there any known copies of the 1801 Rouble ? I saw a real ugly one from 1798 on eBay lately, not even needed to enlarge the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterShell Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Nothing special. Coin is genuine - this type is characterized by weak strike and quite often poor quality of plate so you can meet lot of suspicious looking coins from this period... Edge - anything could happen ... worn, poolished or else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 At one stage I owned 5 Peter I ruble coins. It looks ok to me. Because these coins were struck without a collar as well as the text on the edge is extrusive, NOT instrusive, funny things can happen. Previous silver rubles were reeded diagonally. Probably text edging was done more than 50 years before. They got rid of the extrusive edging in the following year if not a few years later. Sorry, can't rememeber them off my head. So yes, you should be able to read the edge easier if the wear isn't that bad. Mine is clearly readable on the 1799 ruble but the other two aren't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopeikin Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 At one stage I owned 5 Peter I ruble coins. It looks ok to me. Because these coins were struck without a collar as well as the text on the edge is extrusive, NOT instrusive, funny things can happen. Previous silver rubles were reeded diagonally. Probably text edging was done more than 50 years before. They got rid of the extrusive edging in the following year if not a few years later. Sorry, can't rememeber them off my head. So yes, you should be able to read the edge easier if the wear isn't that bad. Mine is clearly readable on the 1799 ruble but the other two aren't so. gxseries, the first one is nice! It should cost about $1,500 or more by now. Do you still have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Kopeikin yes I still own all three. The first one, I rate it as VF as there's wear on the 4 crowns and the letters "P" so therefore I think 1500USD is too high. I would consider selling if it's at that ridicious price but all three rubles are in another country at the moment. I don't have any higher resolution photos as my other laptop with all my coin images are in another city! I remember I tried looking for a 1801 ruble so that I would have a nice run of Paul I ruble coins. Now try looking for a poltina and a polupoltinnk - those two coins are insane difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 gxseries, the first one is nice! It should cost about $1,500 or more by now. Do you still have it? If that one is worth $1500. What do you think these are worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russia_coins Posted November 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 If that one is worth $1500. What do you think these are worth? Nice coins Both are very rare and expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altyn Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Nice coins Both are very rare and expensive. I can see a cursed slab! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 this cursed slab is a bit better, because you can see the edge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregoncoin Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 If that one is worth $1500. What do you think these are worth? Wow. Nice! You've got all the best coins, don't you? Those look familiar - have we seen those before? To answer your question, I'd guess that those would sell for somewhere between $10k to $20k each nowadays. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 doubt it. 1798 should be between 2 (what I paid) and 3. 1797 - I do not know. It is pretty ugly, but it is still 97... Would be surprised if anyone paid 5 for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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