constanius Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Obv: Laureated head of George IV, left. GEORGE IV KING OF GREAT BRITAIN. Rev: A Scottish thistle, SCOTLAND EXULTS IN THE PRESENCE OF HER KING. BHM#1196 AE R. Br R. 26mm by ? 1822 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 His visit to Scotland was important for very many reasons, it had been since Charles I's coronation in Scotland in 1633 since a British monarch visited Scotland - nearly 200 years! There were many commemorative medallions struck, and Leith Banking Company even issued a One Pound note that commemorated his visit - one of the first commemorative banknotes ever. After so long being more or less a backwater the Scots finally felt as though they were part of Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Apparently it was a great success. He was also the first monarch to pay a state visit to Ireland(1821) since Richard II of England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagerap Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Pat, I've just been looking at this: and I'm starting to think that it isn't brass. It's the standard 25 mm and weighs in at 5 gr. Would it be possible to check the weight of your Scottish piece please? I'm thinking that I might have a gilded copper example. It is beautifully golden in tone by the way, just lousy lighting for a hurried shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 You posted links to a a brass version of this in August that you were watching http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php/topic/28635-george-iv-visit-to-ireland-1821/?hl=ireland and it is BHM#1136 by? W.Woodhouse 25mm AE R. Br. R., so there is a copper or bronze(AE) version so that is most likely what yours is gilded copper. I cannot weigh either the Scottish or Irish brass medals at this time but, as they are assumed to be issued by a different person, it would not prove anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagerap Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 This is the same piece, but I've only just realised that it isn't brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Looks in good condition, if the price is ok, go for it. Or did you already get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagerap Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 I have it. My nephew has been helping me out with a few analyses, checking the specific gravity of some suspect pieces and he was using this as a reference point thinking it to be brass. When some of the figures didn't look right, he double checked on George and worked out that it was copper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted October 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 You might have seen this already if not it might be of interest http://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital%20BNJ/pdfs/1987_BNJ_57_8.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagerap Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Thanks Pat, this is fantastic. It's also strange that I was unaware of this yet have many of the titles mentioned in the footnotes. I love the online access to the BNJ with the caveat that it's easy to go in looking for something and come out, three days later, with lots of goodies and precious little idea of what you were looking for in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagerap Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 This has also been useful: http://www.biblical-data.org/GSDykes_Specific_gravity_tests.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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