charlieXS Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I picked these up at a "city market" in Russia in 1999. They were quite cheap... and I've always suspected they were fake. So they're more a memoir of the trip now... Anyone know anything about them? I don't have a scale here but they're quite heavy for the size. thank you, much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieXS Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 and the smaller one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieXS Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 if they ARE authentic, it'd be fascinating to hold nearly 300 yo objects in your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 There are plenty of authentic and affordable 300 year old objects for anyone who chose to have one. In this case: authentic != 1999+'City market'; Some C humor Basically these are, as you suspected, modern reproductions of very rare coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieXS Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 There are plenty of authentic and affordable 300 year old objects for anyone who chose to have one. In this case: authentic != 1999+'City market'; Some C humor Basically these are, as you suspected, modern reproductions of very rare coins. thank you, yes... as suspected. Do you have any info on the original coins that these are reproducing? The 2 headed eagle? Why they have a city name? etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieXS Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 so interesting... on ebay I found 1 kopek $9.99 "museum copy" but it looks significantly different than mine. It appears that these things were copied/faked by hand and not even by casting an original. Even the fakes are inconsistent. Any way to find a pic of an original one? I APPEARS that the eBay one is probably a good quality fake and mine is the amateur job. The wear patterns are all wrong. For mine to be so worn as it appears 2 dimensionally... it would have very little vertical relief, it'd be nearly flat. But in reality, mine has quite a bit of relief. Looking at the ebay copy, I think mine was probably made by a real amateur probabably from looking at a coin in a book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 There are images of the originals in the Uzdennikov catalog, page 376, coins of special issues. BTW there were fakes of these selling even during the time of the USSR as I saw them back in 1991 in Far East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Uzdenikov, Brekke, Bitkin, or GM would be in great help to you to see the diffrences and accept that theses are fakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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