NumisMattic2200 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Isn't eBay jolly? Tonight I got this threatening message from a nasty person in Oz. I've just been threatened by some crazy person in Australia who claims he hasn't received his item. Well a refund should be on the cards, but this person has had no intention whatsoever to be polite about it. This guy was claiming I was a bad type a month ago when I had to tell him I was late in posting out his item. He should have tried the correct channels, this is just outright criminal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Buyers have got all the pull now , sellers are just whipping boys open to all scams with absolutely no support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Buyers have got all the pull now , sellers are just whipping boys open to all scams with absolutely no support. Tell me something I don't already know. Maybe that's why there's such a 'niche' for good quality items after most of the best sellers have left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLoafer63 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 My Goodness...first thought was to be nasty! I was taught you catch more flie's with honey! When someone's that outright rude it make's ya not want to help! When you would have if they were nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Isn't eBay jolly? Tonight I got this threatening message from a nasty person in Oz. I've just been threatened by some crazy person in Australia who claims he hasn't received his item. Well a refund should be on the cards, but this person has had no intention whatsoever to be polite about it. This guy was claiming I was a bad type a month ago when I had to tell him I was late in posting out his item. He should have tried the correct channels, this is just outright criminal! Ouch... Now, the thing about his son... I don't see how that's relevant to anything lol. Is he saying his son is going to get on one of his boats and sail to you? and then tell you all this in person? The world-famous motor raft, matey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 In all fairness to the offender, he is from Tasmania - and well, things are a bit crazy there anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLoafer63 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Sound's to me like he want's to open a can of fishing worm's on ya!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Tell me something I don't already know. Maybe that's why there's such a 'niche' for good quality items after most of the best sellers have left. A niche easily found and abused at times as ive found out via feedback extortion.Theres a reason Ebay doesnt care you know.If you've read the last quarterly report you'll know the idiot in charge doesnt want auctions far less small traders,the vision is to be the next Amazon which shows the CEO is an idiot because Amazon is Amazon and Ebay is Ebay and never the twain shall meet , he'll accomplish nothing but destroying what was a good thing.They are halfway there with the ridiculous fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 A niche easily found and abused at times as ive found out via feedback extortion.Theres a reason Ebay doesnt care you know.If you've read the last quarterly report you'll know the idiot in charge doesnt want auctions far less small traders,the vision is to be the next Amazon which shows the CEO is an idiot because Amazon is Amazon and Ebay is Ebay and never the twain shall meet , he'll accomplish nothing but destroying what was a good thing.They are halfway there with the ridiculous fees. Very true, it is a business model bent on destruction - killing off your clientele that have been your bread and butter sometimes since the beginning in 1995. I had the last of fleeceBay as a seller last year, as a buyer earlier this year. I got ripped off on a payPoo payment - nicked my charge card and my bank for the same amount and as of yet no refund. There are a great many sellers that made their business on selling on fleeceBay before fleeceBay decided to enact inane feedback rules, the payPoo rules, power s#i++er stuff etc. So Amazon after years of unprofitable losses will continue to grow and garner more business and open up to small sellers, all the whilst fleeceBay will repudiate years of profitability and burrow itself into the wreckage of the dotcoms meltdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I think what i find most surprising anymore is there is no real alternative to ebay,no serious contender.Is it a reflection of how lazy we have become in this post internet age , spend the extra 15c here and there what the heck. The problem with that is as every seller will know those 15c's add up to a whopping monthly bill and paypals bill right on the back of it. This is regardless of whether your item sells or not.Every single coin forum ive ever visited has its own horror stories and some even a sub forum for whinging on deals gone sour via ebay , rip offs etc. You would think by now some bright spark would have a serious go with an on line auction house , ebay is rotting on the vine.I believe sellers would leave in droves if there were a serious contender.I always thought Ebid would do better , it wasnt that bad. I think it pivots on the human nature thing , lazy so ebay reaps the rewards ... and yeah id put my hand up and say i am guilty of it too , whinge about them but continue to feed the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corina Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 just one of many reasons i don't buy or sell on E-bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLoafer63 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I haven't used ebay for 2 year's now and wouldn't ever again no matter what!!! Every experience I had they were alway's right when you could "finally" contact them!! I sold 1 item the last time i was there which was a $5.00 item in one month and was billed 200.oo in fee's! Their mistake!! That's when I said enough is Enough! That's why I 've never replied to post's here about ebay....Till this one! People can make up their own mind's without my input but I see you guy's already know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Ouch... Now, the thing about his son... I don't see how that's relevant to anything lol. Is he saying his son is going to get on one of his boats and sail to you? and then tell you all this in person? The world-famous motor raft, matey Oh the thing I didn't mention, is he's claiming the tokens are a personal family matter because they were from the old family farm? I find that must have quite an interesting, 19th-century story behind it. So he might just believe this is somehow his own property If you've read the last quarterly report you'll know the idiot in charge doesnt want auctions far less small traders,the vision is to be the next Amazon which shows the CEO is an idiot because Amazon is Amazon and Ebay is Ebay and never the twain shall meet Aye, and we want back our eBay! It's very sad when on original idea like this is not properly understood and gets ruined by mismanagement. Ebay was meant to be full of junk! But quite a bit of that junk, what really interesting and came out the loft of ordinary people who just wanted to get a few quid for the family heirlooms. I haven't seen too many of this type of lot placed on the bay in the last year or two. It used to be common, or am I imagining it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Oh the thing I didn't mention, is he's claiming the tokens are a personal family matter because they were from the old family farm? I find that must have quite an interesting, 19th-century story behind it. So he might just believe this is somehow his own property Aye, and we want back our eBay! It's very sad when on original idea like this is not properly understood and gets ruined by mismanagement. Ebay was meant to be full of junk! But quite a bit of that junk, what really interesting and came out the loft of ordinary people who just wanted to get a few quid for the family heirlooms. I haven't seen too many of this type of lot placed on the bay in the last year or two. It used to be common, or am I imagining it? Very well said Sir , and i think you are right about the loss of the real ebay , people realise its no longer worthwhile listing grandmas attic junk because by the time ebay have thier slice and the shipping fees there really isnt much room for profit. A listing fee,a percentage of sale fee and paypals fees who ebay own of course,they charge us for charging us and handling the money,its absurd. As often as not it can actually end up costing a novice money to sell an item on ebay,its quite possible to operate at a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Tell me something I don't already know. Water is densest at 4.2C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRnholio Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I, like pretty much everyone, has a real love-hate relationship with Ebay. I hardly do any selling there anymore, as it is really only good for a) really cheap items that can eat up that 15% in fees and still be profitable, or items of substatial value that really need broad exposure to reach a decent selling price. Lately most of my coins/items fall in the very middle grey area. I've run into a few rude sellers myself as well. One was recently when I inquired to an American seller about shipping a toned 1970's specimen dollar to Canada. He gave me an answer along with a long winded explanation that his thinks it should sell for close to $500, and if it doesn't reach close to that, he will pull it off at the last minute. I politely let him know my opinion on that tactic, and tried to educate him on realistic prices for Canadian coins. Basically, that a 1970's Canadian specimen dollar is most definitely not the same as a Morgan dollar. He then blocked me from bidding on his items, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussulo Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Jump aboard the good ship www.coins4u.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benz Gemz Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I like ebid myself, they come in 2nd in size to ebay (although a long way below in numbers) and offer some selling options with no fees. You can sign up to sell for free or buy a premium membership (lifetime premium memberships are on sale until the end of the year). Here is a link to sign up or you can just go to www.ebid.com There are not a ton of coins on there yet, but it could be the place to go. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I have known about the eBid site since 2007 now, but am still wondering if the prices realised can go as high as on feeBay. I have some pretty nice, rare items and at least on the iconic and infamous site you can sometimes get all the attention you need when you've got a popular, sought after item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Thats probably the biggest drawback , but i couldnt say for sure as i havnt used Ebid in several years now.Ive been a member for 10 years there and i used to buy and sell on it , its probably more widely used in the UK. Some of the busier forums have an auction sub forum which i believe is part of the BST forums on most coin sites,on a busy forum it can work quite well on items like Merc dimes or franklins , run of the mill but collectable. Id hazard a guess it doesnt work so well with genuinely rare items.In saying that it also depends on which forum,theres one in particular that always has extremely high quality rarites on offer for exceptionally fair prices. It works well as everyone there being a collector we keep each other honest , and there is the crunch of the matter , others would seek a higher inflated profit and list on ebay reserving the right to whinge about it when it goes pear shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottO Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 ahh the good old Ebay, just netted aEF 1926 UK penny for £2.49 lol i'll have a look at this other one though looks interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 For the uninitiated such as I , thats a good deal presumably ? Is 1926 a rare year ..strange i was brought up in the UK yet i know more about US coins than i do Pre decimal UK coins. Ill hope so as on the strength of a quick google i just bought 2 x 1926 pennies in at least VF and probably better.Google suggest they are scarce but the price sure didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Nah, that's not a rare year for that date. I must say you're 'skimping' aren't you? Plenty more juicy coins to go after... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Nah, that's not a rare year for that date. I must say you're 'skimping' aren't you? Plenty more juicy coins to go after... Ya got me there , im marking time til tomorrow , thats when the big guns come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 What about sellers from the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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