Swimmingly Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 ... in the context of references such as the introduction to the Indian States section of the 1701-1800 Krause Std. Cat., where it says "The silver coins of Hyderabad (dump coins) are common in high grades, and the rupees of some states are scarcer ‘used’ than ‘new’. Great caution must be exercised in determining the value or scarcity of high grade dump coins. Dump gold was rarely circulated, and usually occurs in high grades, or is found made into jewelry." Some coins are called "hammered dump coinage" and others simply "dump coinage" so not all hammered coins are dump coins, apparently. My search fu is weak -- can someone enlighten me what "dump" refers to? TIA, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 It is the central piece of metal removed from a holed coin. A holed coins is called a 'holey' and the removed central piece is called a 'dump' LINK 2nd LINK How this relates to Indian coinage I am not sure, they may have been just very small coins which were similar to dumps and thereby acquired the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Funny how I came across this just a few hours ago: http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/sep09.htm It's worth reading. Australia used to have dump coinage as well - pretty scarce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Nice thread. There is a shortage of coins for trade on those time. Guest it must be something with the history of Europe,Canada and America. started maybe when spanish counterstamp and counter mark the reales. the reason events of those countries that time. Just like a modern bi-metallic coins. There is a tread about red nose when the silver worn out the cooper content will show. http://www.nd.edu/~rarebook/coins/ColCoin/...pper.intro.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farthing_(Bri...)#Tin_farthings Maybe meaning low denomination,low quality but still law money. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dump Use for trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Just posting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honourable_East_India_Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUtodd Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I had never heard of this, thanks for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Indian coins of the Mughal era (16th-19th century) are usually very thick. Silver rupees can easily be about 3 mm thick, coppers 5 mm. Coins of this type are called dump coins, seemingly unrelated to the "dumps" that are punched out of modern coins with a center hole. Similar coins were minted by the Delhi sultans prior to the Mughals and by the Marathas and other dynasties succeding the Mughals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiho Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Interesting topic, and one that I was completely unaware of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Long history from debasement of gols,silver and coin. To mixture in silver to plug coin. To countermark,counterstamp,chopmark,holeydollar to dump coin. To national to international trade. It seems that dump coin is a coin that is lesser in value next to the coin dominating that area or next to whose authority in power,just a comment. Depending who is using the term in a colony. Just posting. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/trail/conques...oins_offa.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Indian coins of the Mughal era (16th-19th century) are usually very thick. Silver rupees can easily be about 3 mm thick, coppers 5 mm. Coins of this type are called dump coins, seemingly unrelated to the "dumps" that are punched out of modern coins with a center hole. Welcome Vincent , thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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