santa Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Diameter of 65 millimetres, weight of 142,4 grammes. A herd ribbed. http://www.collect.co.il/forumattachment.a...m=67148&i=1 http://www.collect.co.il/forumattachment.a...m=67148&i=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Commemorates the October 23rd 1956 Hungarian uprising, which was suppressed by Russian tanks just 12 days later, and the successful 1989 revolution against soviet-style communist rule. The reverse symbolizes the return of political and religious freedom which flowed from the 1989 revolution. The poem and song titled "Szozat", which starts with the words Hazadnak renduletlenul legy hive, oh magyar (To your homeland be faithful steadfastly, O Hungarian) enjoys a social status nearly equal to that of "Himnusz" the official Hungarian national anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santa Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Thanks for the information. It would be desirable to find, from what metal it was minted also what there was a general circulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfdollar Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I can't really help but if you decide to sell it please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarotta Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Hazadnak renduletlenul legy hive, oh magyar (To your homeland be faithful steadfastly, O Hungarian) The obverse commemorates the Hungarian Republic. Magyar = Hungarian, of course köz + Társaság = Republic (special fellowship would be more literal, but it means Republic) The reverse is To the Homeland (Haz = "house" (German loan-word) hazad = homeness; homey; nak = "to that") renduletlenul = "steadfast" legy = to be hive = partisan The Madonna and Child on the Reverse are known from the Medieval coinage of Hungary, a common theme. Notice, also the Eagle at the lower left. Is that the "Aladar" prince of Magyars before their arrival in Europe? (Aladar ~~ Adler for Eagle, perhaps another German loan-word ... perhaps older, if you follow the White Stag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 The obverse commemorates the Hungarian Republic.Magyar = Hungarian, of course köz + Társaság = Republic (special fellowship would be more literal, but it means Republic) The reverse is To the Homeland (Haz = "house" (German loan-word) hazad = homeness; homey; nak = "to that") renduletlenul = "steadfast" legy = to be hive = partisan The Madonna and Child on the Reverse are known from the Medieval coinage of Hungary, a common theme. Notice, also the Eagle at the lower left. Is that the "Aladar" prince of Magyars before their arrival in Europe? (Aladar ~~ Adler for Eagle, perhaps another German loan-word ... perhaps older, if you follow the White Stag... Sincere congratulations on Your history, language history knowledge & translation/interpretation skills! You have really amazed me & made me think... At the same time, I cannot agree with You on 2 things. 1. The bird motive. I think it does not represent an eagle, but the mythological/legendary TURUL bird of the Magyars (usually pictured with a crown on its head & Attila's burning sword in its claws) - the symbol of fight/war for the Hun(garian)s. This bird, according to most historians, is more akin to falcons than eagles - but, of course, all this is highly theoretical...2. It may be my mistake, in which case I am very ashamed, but I have never heard about Prince Aladár...And, as far as I know, that name comes from the German alt=old, & has nothing to do with adlers... But the main thing here is to thank you for Your interest & ideas... Yes, me too would be interested in buying that coin!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Thanks for the information. It would be desirable to find, from what metal it was minted also what there was a general circulation. Yes, please, let us know if You find out some more info, I will also try to make inquiries. For the moment, I do not think it was issued in Hungary, I would be likely to know about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Diameter of 65 millimetres, weight of 142,4 grammes. A herd ribbed. http://www.collect.co.il/forumattachment.a...m=67148&i=1 http://www.collect.co.il/forumattachment.a...m=67148&i=2 Hello, sorry, no result of my investigations. But I am (too) really interested in buying that coin if it's for sale... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarotta Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 ... 2 things. 1. The bird motive. I think it does not represent an eagle, but the mythological/legendary TURUL ... more akin to falcons than eagles ... but I have never heard about Prince Aladár... Your English is much better than my Hungarian, so no apologies are needed. I accept the bird as a falcon, rather than an eagle. First choice is always the Eagle as the largest bird of prey, but others will do. As for Aladar, that may be the Magyar form of Ellek, the son of Attila. It is a sociological fact that immigrant communities differ from the homeland. So, here, in America we may have oral traditions that are not truly original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santa Posted December 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 The medal is offered for sale. Ebay item number:220531669337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarotta Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 The medal is offered for sale. Ebay item number:220531669337 Your product description is taken verbatim from the reply above by Constantius. Commemorates the October 23rd 1956 Hungarian uprising, which was suppressed by Russian tanks just 12 days later, and the successful 1989 revolution against soviet-style communist rule. The reverse symbolizes the return of political and religious freedom which flowed from the 1989 revolution.The poem and song titled "Szozat", which starts with the words Hazadnak renduletlenul legy hive, oh magyar (To your homeland be faithful steadfastly, O Hungarian) enjoys a social status nearly equal to that of "Himnusz" the official Hungarian national anthem. Diameter of 65 millimetres, weight of 142,4 grammes. A herd ribbed. You offer a wide range of numismatic material. You have been an eBay seller since 2004. http://shop.ebay.com/santaisr111/m.html?_n...om=&_ipg=25 Obviously "santa" is not short for Santa Claus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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