badger Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hello everybody, I have just seen this coin for sale on an ebay-like site. The seller claims it's an original trial strike from 1803 -which I have never heard about. 52 grams, 42mm, 5 mm thick. His lowest price is $ 160 which would be too high for a fake...Could anyone help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi and welcome to coinpeople, badger Regarding about the coin, for 160 dollars, it's clearly way too cheap for a genuine - if it happened to be a trial coin, there should be at least another zero to the figure you mentioned. It's clear from the design that it's a crude counterfeit. If you do have that amount of money to spend, you can first get a good catalog. Here's a list of reference books discussed by members in this forum: http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php?showtopic=23104 You might be able to look for some illustrated examples online but I am not able to find any at the moment. Once again, welcome to coinpeople and hope you enjoy your time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hello everybody,I have just seen this coin for sale on an ebay-like site. The seller claims it's an original trial strike from 1803 -which I have never heard about. 52 grams, 42mm, 5 mm thick. His lowest price is $ 160 which would be too high for a fake...Could anyone help me? Hi badger, the color is totally abnormal, this is the ugliest coin of that type I have ever seen. A trial die would have been executed much more carefully. As a general rule: Rare coins are detected (and put aside) early. They don't get that worn. KEEP AWAY!! Sigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi badger, the color is totally abnormal, this is the ugliest coin of that type I have ever seen. A trial would have been executed more carefully. As a general rule: Rare coins are detected (and put aside) early. They don't get that worn. KEEP AWAY!! Sigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted July 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi and welcome to coinpeople, badger Regarding about the coin, for 160 dollars, it's clearly way too cheap for a genuine - if it happened to be a trial coin, there should be at least another zero to the figure you mentioned. It's clear from the design that it's a crude counterfeit. If you do have that amount of money to spend, you can first get a good catalog. Here's a list of reference books discussed by members in this forum: http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php?showtopic=23104 You might be able to look for some illustrated examples online but I am not able to find any at the moment. Once again, welcome to coinpeople and hope you enjoy your time here. Hi & thaks for the friendly welcome, gxseries, To be sincere, I collect coins almost exclusively of my country. What basics I know about Russian coins are mostly from the Krause World Catalog. But I quite often meet valuable??? Russian coins in my hunt for my favourites. In this case I also felt a genuine trial strike would be worth a lot more, so - either cheating/ignorance on the seller's part or a great bargain. Thank You so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted July 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi badger, the color is totally abnormal, this is the ugliest coin of that type I have ever seen. A trial die would have been executed much more carefully. As a general rule: Rare coins are detected (and put aside) early. They don't get that worn. KEEP AWAY!! Sigi Thank You, sigistenz, I do not intend to buy it any more and am really grateful for that advice! But as for the colors, I also used the auto-correction function to make detailes more visible when I had to minimize the pictures for this site, and this may have been a mistake. Here's the "original", only minimized 1st picture again. Greetings, badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Thank You, sigistenz,I do not intend to buy it any more and am really grateful for that advice! But as for the colors, I also used the auto-correction function to make detailes more visible when I had to minimize the pictures for this site, and this may have been a mistake. Here's the "original", only minimized 1st picture again. Greetings, badger Here is a link to a real one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hello everybody, from 1803 -which I have never heard about...Could anyone help me? simple comparasion with originals can allow you to realize that a coin what you asking for is a modern fake.. 4 original pieces you can see here http://www.coinarchives.com/w/results.php?...amp;results=100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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