borgx Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yes I admit the price i quoted is quite high. And yes, you can find items far cheaper on ebay (not unc ofcourse), but you can not find unc grade on ebay. Can you find rp.100 squirrel or rp.50 aligator unc on ebay? Yesterday I saw two of 1000 rupiah from flower series with 2 letter format (H-264b) (not on ebay ofcourse), quite rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yes I admit the price i quoted is quite high. And yes, you can find items far cheaper on ebay (not unc ofcourse), but you can not find unc grade on ebay. Can you find rp.100 squirrel or rp.50 aligator unc on ebay? If you wait long enough you may find anything. There are plenty of unc notes on ebay. Here is an UNC squirrel note: http://cgi.ebay.com/INDONESIA-100-RUPIAH-N...1QQcmdZViewItem I have bought one of these in UNC. from ebay before. The 50 rupiah is much harder to find in nice condition, I do not remember seeing one in UNC¬ The starting price for this 100rp is a bit high so it has not got any bids. BTW, how much do you think for 1997 50rupiah and 1000 rupiah coins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgx Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 $10 is too low for 5 rupiah 1957 in unc condition. I'll buy from you at $20 if you have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgx Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 That's good. Are you developing it for Dr. Arifin? Thelawnet, the forum can be found on koleksiuang.forumwww.com Currently all the categories and forums title are in Indonesian language. Participation are welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Thelawnet, the forum can be found on koleksiuang.forumwww.com Currently all the categories and forums title are in Indonesian language. Participation are welcomed. Thanks. Is this the site you were making? The forum needs to be integrated into the uang-kuno site, because there are already a lot of visitors to uang-kuno.com, and I fear that they wil not make it to a different domain without any permanent links. The other issue I think free forums are not necessarily reliable. For instance, it seems there is no way to backup the phpbb database (even though this is a feature of the phpbb system): http://support.makeforum.org/post15.html?highlight=#15 The free hosting could disappear at any time with all content lost. Actually I believe that uang-kuno.com is registered at godaddy. They provide free hosting with the domain name, but there is advertising. For $3 per month you can turn off the advertising. This is what I have done on the website I have registered with godaddy (http://www.bukitlawang.com/) I would strongly recommend keeping control of your content. But anyway, this is up to Dr. Arifin, as it is his domain name and his website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 How much do you think is a fair price for this note? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mun888 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Are they both new, never folded? The value depends on serial, but assuming they are new and of the most common types, the 2500 rupiah is worth over $100, maybe $150, and the 500 rupiah around $300. How much did you buy them for? Iam bought 2007..not new but looking okelah .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.arifin Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 How much do you think is a fair price for this note? I think US$20-$25 is a fair price for this note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I think US$20-$25 is a fair price for this note. I paid $35. A little high probably, but they come up for sale so rarely, it's not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thelawnet Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I am conducting a census of Netherlands Indies notes. Please contact me if you have any of the following: Any De Javasche Bank notes 1864-October 1925 5 gulden: Coen notes issued before 21 November 1927, between 13 December 1927 and 22 April 1930, or after 27 March 1931 Wayang notes issued: on or before 21 November 1934 (prefix IW or earlier) between 5 June 1937 and 4 October 1937 (prefix UC to UN) between 3 May 1939 and 3 July 1939 (prefix VA to VS) on or after 16 August 1939 (prefix KT or later) 10 gulden Coen notes issued on or before 24/3/1927 (FX or earlier) Coen notes issued between 3/4/1928 and 23/2/1929 (ZH to BY) Coen notes issued on or after 12/3/1931 (WW to YT) Wayang notes issued on or before 3/10/1933 (WW to YT) Wayang notes issued 5/2/1934 to 20/9/1937 (JP to KH) Wayang notes issued 19/9/1938 to 28/7/1939 (BF, BG, BH or BI) Wayang notes issued on or after 31/8/1939 (NE or later) 25 gulden Coen notes serial prefix LM to MB Coen notes SR, SS, ST, SU, SV, SW, SX, SY Coen notes VT, VU, VV, VW notes CM to DH (Wayang or Coen) Wayang notes FN, FO, FP, FR, FS or FT Wayang notes IZ or later 50 gulden Coen (or Frame) EO to FK prefix Coen HW to IE Coen JC, JD, JE KM, KN, KO, KP, KR, KS (could be Wayang or Coen) Wayang MM or later 100 gulden prefix CG to CN (Coen-Mercurius or Coen) prefix CT, CU, CV, CW, CX prefix HC prefix IP to IW (Wayang or Coen) Wayang MA or later 200 gulden prefixes RD, RE, RF, RG, RH, RI, RJ (Coen or maybe before) prefixes RL, RM, RN, RO, RP (Coen) prefix SS or ST (either Coen or Wayang) prefix SZ or later (Wayang) 300 gulden prefix OM to OR (Coen or could be earlier) prefix OT or later (Coen) 500 gulden prefix NU, NV, NW (Coen or maybe earlier) prefix OE (Coen) prefixes OO and later (Wayang) 1000 gulden prefix MU (Coen or Coen-Mercurius) prefix NE or NF (Coen or Wayang) prefix NI, NJ, NK (Wayang) prefix NM or later (Wayang) I need the serial number including prefix, date of issue, denomination, and security code on the back (not for the Wayang series). Also the signatures if possible. ***updated 5 April 2009*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.arifin Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Wayang 10 gulden series # : BE 07581, 19-9-38, sign Waveren Wayang 10 gulden series # : BE 07583, 19-9-38, sign Waveren Wayang 25 gulden series # : FU 01643,44,45, 01775,76, date: 7-11-38, sign Waveren Wayang 25 gulden series # : IY 04438,39,40, date 4-7-39, sign Smith Wayang 50 gulden series # : KT 00285, date 19-4-38 Wayang 100 gulden series # : LZ 01231, date: 22-4-39 Wayang 100 gulden series # : KX 07876 and KX 09419, date : 14-3-38 Wayang 100 gulden series # : KY 06960, date 15-3-38 Wayang 500 gulden series # : OL 07346 and OL 07401, date : 4-6-38 Coen 100 gulden series #: CS 02916, 5 November 1925, sign Ligthart, control # 12906 Coen 500 gulden series #: OH 03951, 19 Augustus 1930, sign Praasterink, control # 15835 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Wayang 10 gulden series # : BE 07581, 19-9-38, sign WaverenWayang 10 gulden series # : BE 07583, 19-9-38, sign Waveren Wayang 25 gulden series # : FU 01643,44,45, 01775,76, date: 7-11-38, sign Waveren Wayang 25 gulden series # : IY 04438,39,40, date 4-7-39, sign Smith Wayang 50 gulden series # : KT 00285, date 19-4-38 Wayang 100 gulden series # : LZ 01231, date: 22-4-39 Wayang 100 gulden series # : KX 07876 and KX 09419, date : 14-3-38 Wayang 100 gulden series # : KY 06960, date 15-3-38 Wayang 500 gulden series # : OL 07346 and OL 07401, date : 4-6-38 Coen 100 gulden series #: CS 02916, 5 November 1925, sign Ligthart, control # 12906 Coen 500 gulden series #: OH 03951, 19 Augustus 1930, sign Praasterink, control # 15835 Thanks, I have updated my list. I have quite a lot of data now. E.g., 500 Gulden: Coen-Mercurius 06/07/1919 NT van den Berg Coen 07/01/1926 NY van Rossem Coen 02/07/1926 OD van Rossem Coen 16/08/1930 OF Praasterink Coen 18/08/1930 OG Praasterink Coen 19/08/1930 OH Praasterink Wayang 02/06/1938 OI van Waveren Wayang 04/06/1938 OL van Waveren Wayang 04/06/1938 OL van Waveren Wayang 27/04/1939 ON van Waveren So there were at least six series of Coen in 1926 (59,994 notes), and a maximum of 4 series of Coen in 1930 (maybe only 3, depends when OE was issued). But are you sure about the code of 500 gulden OH? Please see note OG http://www.javaauction.info/gambar.php?mod...l&nomor=929 This is code 15864 I think OH should be 15865, or it could be a larger number. It should not be less than 15864. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.arifin Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yes, I am sure. 500 gulden Coen, 19 Augustus 1930, serial # OH 03951 and control # 15835 (please see scan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.arifin Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Maybe the control # not 15835 but 15885..... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Maybe the control # not 15835 but 15885..... ?? I think it is 15885. The number should definitely be higher. I still don't really understand the control numbers completely. They are also quite hard to read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.arifin Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Another 500 gulden JP. Coen series : Coen Mercurius, NH 5822, 1 Februari 1916, v d. berg, 9125 Coen Mercurius, NI 7698, 29 December 1917, v.d Berg, 9761 NX 07205, 6 Januari 1926, van Rossem, 13102 NZ 01945, 8 Januari 1926, Van Rossem, 13150 OA 06645, 9 Januari 1926, Van Rossem, 13210 OG 09400, 18 Augustus 1930, Praasterink, ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Another 500 gulden JP. Coen series : Coen Mercurius, NH 5822, 1 Februari 1916, v d. berg, 9125 Coen Mercurius, NI 7698, 29 December 1917, v.d Berg, 9761 NX 07205, 6 Januari 1926, van Rossem, 13102 NZ 01945, 8 Januari 1926, Van Rossem, 13150 OA 06645, 9 Januari 1926, Van Rossem, 13210 OG 09400, 18 Augustus 1930, Praasterink, ????? OG is 15864. I need to find Coen OB, OC, and OE, plus find NU, NV, NW (which could be Coen-Mercurius as well) to have the complete list of dates of issue of the Coen 500 gulden notes. OB and OC would be 1926, OE is either 1926, 1929 or 1930. 1929 is listed as a date in KUKI, but I think it is unlikely. Here are my estimates for total issued for 100 gulden and above: (Each issue is 9999 notes) 100 gulden: Coen series (all): between 151 and 168 issues Each signature: Ligthart/Trip: Minimum 4 issues, maximum 17 van Rossem/Trip: Minimum 104 issues, maximum 113 Praasterink/Wichers: Minimum 34 issues, maximum 46 Wayang (all Waveren/Wichers): At least 78 issues 200 gulden: Coen (all): between 32 and 41 issues Ligthart/Trip: between 1 and 13 issues van Rossem/Trip: 23 to 29 issues Praasterink/Wichers: 3 or 4 issues Wayang at least 5 issues 300 gulden: at least 1 issue 500 gulden: Coen (all): 11 to 14 issues van Rossem/Trip: 8 to 11 issues Praasterink/Wichers: 3 or 4 issues Wayang: at least 6 issues 1000 gulden: Coen (all): 9 to 14 issues van Rossem/Trip: 9 to 14 issues Praasterink/Wichers: zero to two issues (I need to find out the issue dates of series NE and NF) Wayang: at least six issues Based on these data, all the KUKi prices for the Praasterink/Wichers signature combination are too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.arifin Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Coen 300 gulden OS 04685, 8 Januari 1926, control # 13191 (see KUKI) OS 04688, 8 Januari 1926, control # 13191 (see picture) Do you know what is the secret behind the control numbers? Same day, same control numbers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isac Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hi.. Glad to know. My collection is still far from complete . I dont have a certain focus, I like them all the Indonesian banknotes What about Netherlands-Indie, are you collecting them also? is that yours, the wayang gulden series? please see my collection, thanks. http://koleksi-uang.blogspot.com, and email me at uangkertas@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Coen 300 gulden OS 04685, 8 Januari 1926, control # 13191 (see KUKI) OS 04688, 8 Januari 1926, control # 13191 (see picture) Do you know what is the secret behind the control numbers? Same day, same control numbers?? Some points: * each denomination of note has a two letter serial prefix. This started in 1864 (Frame Series). The prefixes run consecutively, but Q is not used. So if AP was issued, the next was AR, then AS, AT, AU, AV, AW, AX, AY, AZ, BA, etc. * after issuing ZZ, they then issued AA. * the serial prefixes continue unbroken in consecutive order from 1864 to 1939 * it is unlikely that they started each note with AA, because if you consider that prefix NH for 500 gulden was issued on 1/2/1916 and ON in 27/4/1939 while for 1000 gulden ME was issued on 1/5/1897 and NL on 28/4/1939, they moved through less than 50 prefixes in 42 years, so I do not think it is possible that they could have made it from AA to ME in the preceding 33 years. That said, the prefixes of the larger notes are similar - Coen 200 g is from RK, 300 g is from OS, 500 g is from NX and 1000 g is from MV. Given that the larger denominations would have had fewer issues, it is likely that they all started on the same prefix. My guess is that all denominations started with MA on first issue in 1864. But it could be something else. * Because there are only 6.25 million combinations from AA 1 to ZZ 9999, notes with duplicate serials can definitely be found - but they would be issued on different dates * For the smaller denominations you can even find notes of the same series with the same serial. E.g., Wayang 5 gulden IX was issued 21/11/1934, and IX was again issued some time between 3/12/1936 and 8/12/1936 * On the other hand, the rarer denominations, i.e. 200, 300, 500 and 1000 gulden definitely only have one of each serial prefix. As for 100 gulden, I suspect that exactly one of each prefix was issued. I base this on the fact that the first prefix I have, XR was issued in 1908 and the last Wayang prefix I have found is LZ in 1939. If they started with MA, it is likely that notes MA->XR were issued between 1864 and 1908 (and not MA->ZZ, AA->XR, that would be too much money). 50 gulden turns out to be not really significantly more common than 100 gulden, the last note I've seen is ML, and the first, in 1916, BS. * the notes of De Javasche Bank have 4 digit serial numbers, running 1 to 9999 for each and every prefix. But at some point they decided to add a 0 before the serial number. In the 1920s they even used two preceding zeroes. Regardless of the 1 or 2 leading zeroes, only four numbers are actually significant. * The notes were shipped from Haarlem blank, and completed in batches of 9999 in Batavia. * On each day zero or more batches of 9999 would be issued for each denomination. Dated 22 January 1935 I have found notes of prefix PG and PM. If you convert the serial prefix to a number, then that is 382 and 388. Prefixes 383-387 (PH - PL) would also have been issued on that date. Dated 2/2/1935 I've found UK, and 5/2/1935 VD. VD is equivalent to prefix 504, so between 22/1/1935 and 5/2/1935 AT LEAST 122 batches of 9,999 notes were issued. This is 1,219,878 notes, or 6.6 million gulden. * Regarding the control numbers, these go up in ones according to the date, denomination and prefix. Here are the date I have: Denomination Issue Date Serial letters Code 300 30/04/1901 OL 5011 5 31/10/1901 YM 10853 100 13/04/1908 XR 7751 100 14/04/1908 XS 7756 5 22/05/1913 RN 8357 10 16/08/1913 UI 8861 5 26/09/1913 VS 9229 10 21/10/1913 WO 9285 200 08/01/1916 PH 9152 500 01/02/1916 NH 9125 50 03/06/1916 BS 9404 500 29/12/1917 NI 9761 100 03/01/1919 ZF 10497 500 03/01/1919 NL 10742 1000 03/07/1919 MR 11510 500 06/07/1919 NT 11505 200 09/09/1919 PU 11488 20 16/01/1920 FK 10714 25 01/04/1920 IE 10988 10 12/06/1920 HH 11040 10 02/09/1920 IU 11184 5 11/09/1920 IJ 11174 50 05/10/1920 CS 11170 5 20/10/1920 JS 11238 25 03/12/1920 LB 11446 10 09/12/1920 KN 11358 100 10/12/1920 BN 11825 25 15/12/1920 LL 11892 100 11/02/1921 BZ 11836 100 02/05/1921 CF 11842 50 10/08/1922 EN 11872 200 10/08/1922 PX 11914 200 15/08/1922 RB 11918 200 16/08/1922 RC 11919 10 13/03/1923 SO 12271 5 17/01/1924 GS 12543 5 08/09/1924 OJ 12858 100 02/11/1925 CO 12903 100 03/11/1925 CP 12904 200 04/11/1925 RK 12936 100 05/11/1925 CS 12906 200 11/11/1925 RR 12942 100 12/11/1925 CY 12912 100 16/11/1925 DB 12915 200 27/11/1925 SF 13183 25 05/12/1925 MC 12943 25 29/12/1925 MV 12966 500 06/01/1926 NX 13102 500 07/01/1926 NY 13187 50 08/01/1926 FL 12985 300 08/01/1926 OS 13191 500 08/01/1926 NZ 13150 500 09/01/1926 OA 13210 25 13/01/1926 NH 12978 50 16/01/1926 FT 12992 50 20/01/1926 FW 12995 1000 01/07/1926 NC 13287 200 02/07/1926 SN 13264 500 02/07/1926 OD 13268 1000 02/07/1926 ND 13296 50 05/03/1927 GY 13514 100 23/03/1927 EP 13523 25 01/07/1927 RD 14246 100 04/07/1927 ET 13649 25 12/07/1927 RM 14336 100 25/07/1927 FL 13903 100 30/07/1927 FR 13987 10 27/08/1927 LE 13871 10 01/10/1927 MW 13922 10 11/10/1927 PX 14106 10 11/10/1927 RF 14114 5 24/11/1927 GE 14036 10 03/01/1928 WL 14443 100 16/01/1928 GE 14243 100 17/01/1928 GF 14244 100 19/01/1928 GH 14251 100 21/01/1928 GK 14253 100 24/01/1928 GM 14253 100 25/01/1928 GN 14536 100 30/01/1928 GS 14340 25 27/03/1928 SP 14665 50 15/01/1929 IJ 14793 25 17/01/1929 TL 14744 25 22/01/1929 TP 14748 25 25/01/1929 TT 14782 25 29/01/1929 TW 14785 25 07/02/1929 UC 14791 10 23/02/1929 BZ 14814 25 12/03/1929 UL 14831 25 19/03/1929 US 14845 25 26/03/1929 UY 14851 5 01/04/1929 VB 14871 25 20/04/1929 VS 14932 50 24/04/1929 IX 14920 10 15/07/1929 EG 15692 10 03/08/1929 EY 15022 50 03/08/1929 JF 15004 50 08/08/1929 JJ 15008 50 13/08/1929 JN 15050 50 14/08/1929 JO 15051 10 09/09/1929 GD 15078 100 02/11/1929 HE 15218 100 05/11/1929 HG 15220 25 06/11/1929 XJ 15098 25 11/11/1929 XN 15102 25 18/11/1929 XU 15173 50 21/11/1929 JT 15093 50 26/11/1929 JX 15224 25 08/01/1930 YF 15231 25 10/01/1930 YH 15313 25 11/01/1930 YI 15314 5 22/04/1930 GP 15536 5 22/04/1930 GU 15540 5 23/04/1930 HE 15550 5 24/04/1930 HG 15552 5 25/04/1930 HS 15563 100 25/04/1930 HS 15485 5 26/04/1930 IA 15571 25 30/04/1930 ZV 15671 100 03/05/1930 HZ 15662 25 13/08/1930 AA 15784 500 16/08/1930 OF 15775 500 18/08/1930 OG 15864 500 19/08/1930 OH 15885 10 26/08/1930 PP 15899 50 28/08/1930 KL 15870 25 30/08/1930 AP 15962 200 15/10/1930 SO 15954 200 16/10/1930 SP 16042 200 17/10/1930 SR 16043 25 23/10/1930 AY 16053 25 25/10/1930 BA 16055 5 15/11/1930 VM 16160 5 15/01/1931 YR 16279 10 16/01/1931 VI 16312 25 19/01/1931 BW 16256 25 20/01/1931 BX 16299 5 20/01/1931 AM 16345 10 14/02/1931 VY 16364 25 09/03/1931 CC 16349 5 27/03/1931 DA 16462 5 27/03/1931 DC 16464 As you can see the numbers increase over time. Also the numbers are unique to the combination of serial prefix and denomination. That said, although the numbers seem to go up in 1s for the same denomination (e.g., 25 gulden AY above is 16053, and 25 gulden BA is 16055, therefore 25 gulden AZ would be 16054) for some reason it seems like they perhaps had different numbers allocated to different denominations. I don't understand why the security numbers do not simply increment across all series. But they do not. All I can say is that the bank officials would have recorded the correct codes for each prefix/denomination combination and if somebody created a fake not where the security code was not correct for the prefix, it would be identified. One thing with my data above is that there are probably some errors in the security codes, they are hard to read and I probably made one or two mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Edit: I read the numbers wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Preliminary data on 100 gulden Coen note: Issue dates: Ligthart/Trip (Scarcest): Issue Dates: 2nd, 3rd, probably 4th, 5th November 1925, possibly other dates between 6th November and 11th November 1925, possibly also earlier dates. At least 4 issues of 9,999 notes, but could be as many as 16. Most likely somewhere in the middle. Van Rossem/Trip (Most common) Issue Dates: November 1925, March 1927, July 1927, January-February 1928. Other dates may also exist. At least 104 issues of 9,999 notes. Could be up to 111 issues. Praasterink/Wichers Issue Dates: November 1929, April-May 1930, August 1930, October 1930. Other dates may also exist. At least 36 issues. Possibly up to 45. Issues by year: 1925: 25+ (could be up to 50) 1926: probably zero 1927: 36+ (up to 65) 1928: 23+ (up to 39) 1929: 10+ (up to 13) 1930: 21+ (up to 33) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.arifin Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Great research, very helpfull for me. Now, how about 50 gulden (Coen and wayang), how much prefiks do you know, can you explain too? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawnet Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Great research, very helpfull for me.Now, how about 50 gulden (Coen and wayang), how much prefiks do you know, can you explain too? Thank you Regarding the 50 Gulden note, the issue of this was started probably in January 1926, van Rossem/Trip. The first note I found is 4 January 1926, prefix FH. It's likely that there are some notes before this, this is just the earliest I found. There was a big issue in January 1926, from at least 4th to 20th January, inclusive. The next issue is from 1st July 1926, although it's possible the issue started in June, and also that there might be an issue in between. This was also van Rossem/Trip. It continued until at least 12th July. After that I find March 1927, also van Rossem/Trip, plus July 1927 and March 1928 also. Michielsen/Trip starts in January 1929, ending on 31st January. The second Michielsen/Trip issue starts 17th April 1929, continuing till at least 29th April, but maybe until May. Praasterink/Wichers begins I think 3rd August 1929, but maybe one or two days earlier. This issue continued for about 2 weeks. There was another issue in November 1929, then April and August 1930. 50 Gulden Wayang seems to begin 19th April 1938 (only one signature type). But maybe a little earlier - is that prefix KM in your picture? Notes were issued from then through until 4th June 1938. The second and final 50 Gulden Wayang issue was 11th through 14th May 1939, prefixes MI, MJ, MK, ML. It's quite possible it continues after that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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