NumisMattic2200 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Can't see a date on this, it should be at the top above the shield but I don't see anything?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 The mintmark is that of a martlet, this puts it within the Second Coinage and no threehalfpences were minted then. Therefore this is a penny minted in either 1560 or 1561. No rose behind bust and without a date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted November 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Thanks for the info Clive - can you tell me where you see this martlet? I find it great that you used this as a way of identifying it as a Penny. I was told it must be a Half-Groat on CC. But the size is roughly that of a threefarthings, which must be similar in size. Also it is quite bent so the flan should slightly be larger so it makes sense. Of course, I cannot find an example of an Elizabeth Penny in spink! and that's why I could not identify this coin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 The martlet is the bird visible on both sides of the coin, look directly above the queen and you can see the letter A. Clockwise from that A is the martlet. On the reverse, look at the central arm of the shield, it reaches the very top edge of the coin, directly clockwise from that is the same mint mark. A half-groat always has two pellets behind the bust to show it's worth in pence, i.e. 2 pence. As for an example in Spink, it is Spink Ref: 2558. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Thanks. The one on the obverse is clear, I can see all but the head - it's a body and foot facing left. One the reverse, it looks a little bit vague. And now I daren't sell this as it seems so darn interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Lizzie's pennies are very interesting coins and I especially like them due to their minute, yet detailed, portraits. Glad I could help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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