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Dave M

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I finally have in my hands a graded note (from PMG) for the first time. I'd seen these holders in catalogs and such, but never had one in my hands. I must say, that while it's interesting to see someone's opinion on the grade of the note, I really miss the ability to feel the note in my hands. Also the plastic holder is very thick and slightly cloudy, making the note seem a bit like it could just be an image of a real note, behind glass. It's quite tempting to cut this thing open and free the note from its bond.

 

Anyone else ever do this? I suppose it's a dumb thing to do, but I guess I'm having trouble appreciating this note from afar...

 

Dave

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I finally have in my hands a graded note (from PMG) for the first time. I'd seen these holders in catalogs and such, but never had one in my hands. I must say, that while it's interesting to see someone's opinion on the grade of the note, I really miss the ability to feel the note in my hands. Also the plastic holder is very thick and slightly cloudy, making the note seem a bit like it could just be an image of a real note, behind glass. It's quite tempting to cut this thing open and free the note from its bond.

 

Anyone else ever do this? I suppose it's a dumb thing to do, but I guess I'm having trouble appreciating this note from afar...

 

Dave

It boggles my mind to think the different between PMG64/ 65 /66,etc. How can you grade the french notes with all these wave ,which is a natural.... I always like to find out. Any suggestion..!

madison

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It boggles my mind to think the different between PMG64/ 65 /66,etc. How can you grade the french notes with all these wave ,which is a natural.... I always like to find out. Any suggestion..!

madison

I don't know the details of the 64/65/66 etc system, but even the "old fashioned" version of AU/UNC depends on the locale. Pick states that a French note which you or I might says is "brand new" will be AU-UNC because of the wavy paper. French catalogs will list the same note as NEUF, ignoring the wavy paper. None of my catalogs associate a number like "66" with UNC, though I assume PMG has some sort of translation table available. The note I just bought is a 55, they call it "AU".

 

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Dave

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I suppose that the graded holders are a way to go for notes if you are mainly interested in them for investment and resell, or perhaps to secure the grade of a truly expensve note. There may even be those that just simply like the grading process and get a kick out of that as well.

 

I've never had a graded note in a holder, but I have read in forums that several people free them from their prisons for the very reasons you have listed. Why have it if you can't appreciate it any more than you can on the computer screen? Yeah, you can hold it - in the holder - but it just isn't the same they say. Myself, I've avoided them just so I would not have to make that decision.

 

Madison is correct in his comment too. There aer many notes that are not "MS70" as a coin can be simply because they were stapled into their shipping holders when still at the printers, or the wavy papers that the French notes were well known for, or simply the 'counting marks' that were found on many other during their quality control checks. For these notes, there has been a common understaning and acceptance that UNC would still apply to them even thoguh they are not "Perfect". It would be interesting to know how these grading companies would deal with banknotes with such issues as these.

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TPG's have been expanding into grading world currency/coins. But to me this is flawed.

 

I think part of the problem with the grading companies grading world notes, is they don't have people with enough experience to grade each country. All the graders are from the US and unless that particular grader collects French notes (or any other country) and understand all the different things about French notes then to me it is just a random guess.

 

I collect world currency, but I didn't know about the wavy paper.

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I suppose that the graded holders are a way to go for notes if you are mainly interested in them for investment and resell, or perhaps to secure the grade of a truly expensve note. There may even be those that just simply like the grading process and get a kick out of that as well.

 

I've never had a graded note in a holder, but I have read in forums that several people free them from their prisons for the very reasons you have listed. Why have it if you can't appreciate it any more than you can on the computer screen? Yeah, you can hold it - in the holder - but it just isn't the same they say. Myself, I've avoided them just so I would not have to make that decision.

 

Madison is correct in his comment too. There aer many notes that are not "MS70" as a coin can be simply because they were stapled into their shipping holders when still at the printers, or the wavy papers that the French notes were well known for, or simply the 'counting marks' that were found on many other during their quality control checks. For these notes, there has been a common understaning and acceptance that UNC would still apply to them even thoguh they are not "Perfect". It would be interesting to know how these grading companies would deal with banknotes with such issues as these.

Thank you Dave& Dave and Brett for the above comments. this is one example.....!

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