IgorS Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 As promissed, here are the scans of the obverse, reverse, and the edge. There are no visible signs of the cypher 1796 10 kopeks, but the edge has signs of re-edging. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 As promissed, here are the scans of the obverse, reverse, and the edge. There are no visible signs of the cypher 1796 10 kopeks, but the edge has signs of re-edging. What do you guys think? I think the coin is an overstrike, or at least struck more than once, possibly to obliterate an undertype (probably a 10 kopeks). See the obverse between 1 and 2 o'clock positions. It looks like there is a ghost image of the wreath there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigistenz Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think the coin is an overstrike, or at least struck more than once, possibly to obliterate an undertype (probably a 10 kopeks). See the obverse between 1 and 2 o'clock positions. It looks like there is a ghost image of the wreath there. I'd say that the nice coin is double struck on both sides, see the top crown on the eagle side and the both tops of the wreath on the monogram side. I can't see any sign of a reoverstrike. It would take gxseries' eagle eyes to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think the coin is an overstrike, or at least struck more than once, possibly to obliterate an undertype (probably a 10 kopeks). See the obverse between 1 and 2 o'clock positions. It looks like there is a ghost image of the wreath there. There is no question the coin is at least triple struck. You could see iv pretty good on the eagle side. There is no trace of an undertype. However, if the edge is a mixed edge, then there could be no doubt that the coin is an overstrike. I would love to see the edge in person and under the microscope. Hopefully in a few weeks? There is an article by Uzdenikov who indicates that specifically for AM mint some coins can only be recognized as Paul's overstrika by its edge. If it is an overstrike, and it like like it is, it is spectacular and rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennysky Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 There is no question the coin is at least triple struck. You could see iv pretty good on the eagle side. There is no trace of an undertype. However, if the edge is a mixed edge, then there could be no doubt that the coin is an overstrike. I would love to see the edge in person and under the microscope. Hopefully in a few weeks? There is an article by Uzdenikov who indicates that specifically for AM mint some coins can only be recognized as Paul's overstrika by its edge. If it is an overstrike, and it like like it is, it is spectacular and rare. A few $$$ and a dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 A few $$$ and a dream! way more than a few dollars nowdays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennysky Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 way more than a few dollars nowdays... But still only a dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I'm actually puzzled over what it is. For sure it is at least a double strike but I have difficulties identifying the underlying image. For a few second I thought it was an overstrike of the previous Petrovna pytak but I'm afraid it's a bit too early to say as such. IgorS, would you happen to have a larger image of it? It is doable if you increase the DPI resolution of your scanner - most scanners can go up to 600DPI easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I think the coin is an overstrike, or at least struck more than once, possibly to obliterate an undertype (probably a 10 kopeks). See the obverse between 1 and 2 o'clock positions. It looks like there is a ghost image of the wreath there. Hi Igor, I'm sorry I have brought up forum after couple weeks. What exactly you can see on between 11 and 12 o’clock on obverse. I can see some multi lines from the edge , is it similar space between the lines? Thanks, Rarenum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Hi Igor,I'm sorry I have brought up forum after couple weeks. What exactly you can see on between 11 and 12 o’clock on obverse. I can see some multi lines from the edge , is it similar space between the lines? Thanks, Rarenum Rarenum, are you speaking to IgorS or to me? You say "Igor", but you quote me, which confuses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Rarenum, are you speaking to IgorS or to me? You say "Igor", but you quote me, which confuses me. Hi Grivna ,the question was send to IgorS .Pick up your reply in error,I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hi Grivna ,the question was send to IgorS .Pick up your reply in error,I'm sorry. Thank you for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hi Grivna ,the question was send to IgorS .Pick up your reply in error,I'm sorry. I will show you the coin in person. It will be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I will show you the coin in person. It will be easier. Great,and I will bring my 1794 AM,1795 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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