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It almost looks like one of those replicas put out by National Collectors Mint or some such place but I couldn't find any 1904's done by them. It has that 'too good' look to it.

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Or it could be real and just not his picture.  :ninja:

 

http://www.coinfacts.com/double_eagles/lib...ouble_eagle.htm

PCGS Proof-65 Cameo. No wonder it looks so good. ;)

 

That was my second idea ; I repeatedly asked for a raw scan and got no answer

The link you posted is indeed the picture he showed inclusive the slight

blemish at 5 o'clock

Man you are fast

I webcrawled for two hours and could not find that 1904

Thanks

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It was a lucky hit. After I found the auction, I went to CoinFacts to check on examples of the date and there it was. :ninja:

 

I first searched for fakes and found no silver goldclad 1904

 

Then I searched for proofs and found this matte I did no know exists

 

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...&category=52618

 

Then I found a real proof but with slightly wobbly surface like

I would expect which made me even more doubtfull of the picture

 

http://www.coinsite.com/content/coinpics/1871G20.asp

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It looks like they just copied the photo, and by the way, that is a photo of a genuine proof 1904 double eagle. I would not purchase any 1904 double eagle from Europe though, as that is one of the most commonly counterfeited dates (which makes this even more suspect given the bogus photo).

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Good catch, Stu. That one is so obviously an extremely high grade proof you have to wonder why it's in an auction online. Gorgeous coin. I'm partial to that super glossy type of proof.

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Good catch, Stu.  That one is so obviously an extremely high grade proof you have to wonder why it's in an auction online.  Gorgeous coin.  I'm partial to that super glossy type of proof.

 

I would have put even odds that it was a repro when I first saw it. Sometimes you see a coin that is so above and beyond what you expect for the type that you start looking for 'Copy' on it somewhere. :ninja: I once saw a Proof Morgan that was like that...I would have sworn it was fresh off of one of today's presses.

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I had three thoughts

 

1) a goldclad because there are allways goldclads on offer

but without the word copy or the word copy removed

 

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...8319032165&rd=1

 

2) a software manipulated photo with despeckling and all

the other odds added in

 

 

3) A copy cat picture of somebody elses photos

When I asked the question I was leaning to the last possibility

because all the coins he has for sale have a different background

and we all stick to our preferred background

 

But only Stujoe found the original :ninja:

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When I asked the question I was leaning to the last possibility

because all the coins he has for sale have a different background

and we all stick to our preferred background

 

That is a very good point! If a seller has a number of auctions up, the pictures are almost always going to look very, very similar. If they are wildly different, some warning bells should start ringing.

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No idea, but I am not going to buy into that. Zero feedbacks = too risky.

 

 

The first picture I posted was a 28 feedbacker and I am now tracking one with

199 feedbacks who says the picture is the coin you buy but he is lying

because he uses the same reverse for at least three coins

Feedback is a minimum but many people do not know how to grade themselves and do not have a loupe to look what they bought nor a weighing scale

And they probably leave a positive feedback for delivery within a reasonable time for a coin that looks like what they thouhgt they bought

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Yes, I know. It's easy to make drones of such auction "sellers". Some rumors are that they are programmed to do something like that, which is pretty horrible. Of course I do know that feedbacks are almost useless, it's still a way to check. :ninja:

 

I do not think I bought from anybody with less then 20 pos feedbacks

I will send them any kind of question and look how fast and what kind of

answer they give

If the answer is timely and friendly and correct I may bid

However some are so dumb that if you ask for a better pic they just sent the same bad 96 dpi but enlarged which is useless and 90% do not seem to know any better

Virtually nobody seems to understand a 300 dpi bitmap request

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I have asked several different sellers for better photographs and have never recieved even a courtesy response. Needless to say, I didn't bid

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  • 1 month later...

I know hardly anything about silver coins

This 1900 one ounce silver walking liberty only weighs 0.71 ounce

It is not mine but somebody is asking for help on it

Is this a common fake ?

It tested no silver with acids would it be aluminium ?

 

 

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