numismatic nut Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 So I am looking at coins on the bay, and then I see this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=160248508881. So what grade is the coin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 It smells like it is cleaned, and or photoshoped, all the way through my computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneydog Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I have to agree with the cleaned maybe MS-60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satootoko Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 First red flag: Private listing Second red flag: Positive Feedback (last 12 months): 94.6%14 Negative 22 Neutral 36 Total Third red flag: Duration: 3-day listing Fourth red flag: The identity of the TPG Fifth red flag: Quality of the pictures Need I go on? Edited to substitute text "red flag" for the .jpgs that quit working for unknown reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 First Private listing Second Third Fourth The identity of the TPG Fifth Quality of the pictures Need I go on? Awwww, hey, it's a dimpled MS-65. Says so right there on the holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stilson Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 She has had a pretty bad time with feedback. Check her out at Toolhaus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Once again, NEVER EVER EVER buy any coin because of the holder. Especially from a no name company like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numismatic nut Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I was going to but it and put it into a ANACS holder, but not now! I'm not going to look at the auction again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I was going to but it and put it into a ANACS holder, but not now! I'm not going to look at the auction again! A wise choice. I've noticed over the years that DMPL and PL designations are overrated. Most of the no-name or unknown companies place it on nearly ever Unc, cleaned, or Xf+ Morgan in their hands. I would only trust the better known companies for that designation, and then only with good photos. I do have a nice DMPL graded MS-64 DMPL by NTC. I know they are not known for grading well, and this coin would only get a 62/63 in my opinion, but it is a blazing DMPL with great frost on the devices. The photo isn't the best, but it really is a B&W cameo coin. I took a gamble and was very happy when the coin arrived, so as much as I never seem to agree with NTC's grades, I do agree with their added designations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 BTW: L. O. L. on these 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahabully Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 OMG. These guys appear to have hit a new low in TPG's.... I've purchased 1 coin from a 3-4th tier tpg,, i think it was acg, or agc, or whatever....... was actually very happy with the coin and price and agreed with the grade..... but took my time reviewing the auction, asked for additional pics, got a nice discount, etc... ntc stuff always appears problematic, cleaned, etc..., but at least get thier coins within 1 or 2 grade partitions of the actual.... Congrats uscg (United Scam Consignment Group?),,, take another swig and grade a few more.... and thanks for the comedy relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 USCG = United States Corrupt Gradings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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