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2 KOPEK OVERSTRIKES.


Mike Shaver
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Hope that this is not too trivial. Am collecting 2 kop overstrikes. Diakov and Brekke are of little help. For example .. 1757 Denonination Above. Over 1723 - 1730 Krestovek .. no problem. Baroque kopeks 1755, 1756, 1757, MMD, CPB, Lettered Moscow, St Pete, Ekat, 16 variety possibilities. Add 1757 Bolow, 1758, 1759, and 1760 Above and Below and we have over a hundred possibilities. Have lots of examples but no guidelines .. Any ideas?

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I thought about it some time ago but I think there are limitations of how much combinations you can have, for example I think it would be quite scarce to find Moscow 5 kopeks overstruck in Yekaterinburg due to geographical location. Again, I don't have enough samples to talk about in the first place and a fair amount of the overstruck coins are just difficult to analyze. :ninja:

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Thanks .. Am going to catalogue my examples and try to find some patterns and trends. I doubt (as you say) that a 1757 Baroque in Western Russia would be overstruck in Ekat in 1757 or 1758 . I'll update you on any trends that I find. Maybe Steve could add some sage advice from his extensive data base .. mike

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Mike, are you focusing stricktly on Elizabeth overstrikes for todays discussion? Or do you include peter III, Catherine II, and Paul in this new area of focus?

 

See the thread mentioned by siluska... I recall posting an image of a 1765 cpm 2k that is struck over an Elizabeth 2K, but without the usual 4K peter III overstriking of 1762. The Catherine coin is struck 180 deg. to the undercoin, such that the two monograms are superimposed on top of each other, one crown at top, one at bottom.

On the obverse, you can see the denomanation banner at the top, and the horses tail(175?) at the nose of the horse(1765). Havent seen another like this..

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Thanks .. Am going to catalogue my examples and try to find some patterns and trends. I doubt (as you say) that a 1757 Baroque in Western Russia would be overstruck in Ekat in 1757 or 1758 . I'll update you on any trends that I find. Maybe Steve could add some sage advice from his extensive data base .. mike
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My focus is 2 kopeks 1757 - 1760 and 1788 1763 thru 1767 and 1788 .. also 5 kopeks 1763 thru 1767 and 1788. I only have the 1793 no mm and 1793 EM Paul's. The fun for me is determinig the undercoins. I also have a couple of 1758 - 1759 kopeks that look overstruck but have not deternined the undercoin .. can't tell if they are Swedish or something else. If I can fiqure out how .. will post on the forum as a topic. Won't be home from Kayaing till later in the week .. mike

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Good Morning from Ugly Copper. As promised .. a partial listing on 1757 - 1760 2 k overstrikes. Some will be listed with only date or mint. All others contain date and mint. 1757 above. 1756 Ekat (lett), Krestovek. 1757 below. Krestovek, 1756 (edge 5), 1756 CPB, 1755 CPB (?) and Krestovek. 1758 above. 1755 Ekat (lett), Krestovek. 1758 below. 1756 MMD, CPB, 1755 and Krestovek (edge 5), 1756 CPB. 1759 above. 1755 Ekat. 1759 below. 1755 MMD, Krestovek and MMD. 1760 below. 1755 (edge5). Any positive sighting additions woul be welcome ... mike

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