SOMMER Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 hello i find this coin on a site, it looks me very rare,maybe a Peter III? is it only a fake?? Thank you a lot regards from france jean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaE Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Looks like a fake to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Sorry, but this a fake. The original of this is almost non existent.. The 1 kopek of 1762 peter III is extremely rare (see thread earlier this year on this forum, less than 10 known specimens) You will find the 2 kopek, maybe 3 or 4 times a year on ebay (a guess) and the 4 kopek more frequently, but just as frequently these are faked. The 10 kopek, maybe 1 or 2 times a year on ebay. Also fakes out there. These all usually go to major auctions these days, but the dealers get them too, so check the usual Russian specialists. See Alex Basok's site, rustypennies.com for a good selection of copper from this period, and be assured no fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMMER Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 thank you a lot yout answers are really a treasure and a pleasure for me; i begin i numismatics for 6 months, and this is difficult to share fakes from true coins; but the grae of this coin looks me very lustrous for this period thank you a lot again regards from france Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 All Peter III copper is overstruck on older coins, so they are generally NOT high grade. In fact, the uglier, the better, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMMER Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 sure i think finding nice coins before 1800 is exceptional , but that s just my opinion, i boght on sunday a rouble catharina2 from 1774, i bought it in a professionnal seller auction,but not in high grade, that s less expesive and more secured for me.The are too fakes on internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 All Peter III copper is overstruck on older coins, so they are generally NOT high grade. In fact, the uglier, the better, in my opinion. Well...most Peter III copper is overstruck. As I said in my article, mint reports show some 10Ks were struck on new flans and I see around 30% of known examples with no trace of undercoin. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altyn Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 The 1 kopek of 1762 peter III is extremely rare (see thread earlier this year on this forum, less than 10 known specimens) ... regardless of its authenticity this is a denga = 1/2 kopeck, and I am confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 ... regardless of its authenticity this is a denga = 1/2 kopeck, and I am confused Denda is fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 A good thread to read on Peter III Kopek.. http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php?showtopic=18485 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 ... regardless of its authenticity this is a denga = 1/2 kopeck, and I am confused Yes, things get confusing here sometimes We were indeed talking about a Denga, but the topic became a little more general. Welcome to coinpeople btw. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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