Dockwalliper Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I use them almost daily in the Pop machines at work. The machines don't give me a hard time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 If you're interested in what I'm saying you should do some reasearch on the United States paying farmers NOT to farm. That's right, there are farmers that are paid to not grow crops with our tax money, so they can keep the price of the product higher. The same happens here in the European Union. I know it seems like a daft concept but there is logic and reason behind it. Helps to keep the economy stable and reduces wastage. You'll properly find the farmers are also expected to take on a number of countryside duties. Now personaly however I feel we'd be better paying the farmers to produce the surplus anyway and simply ship it off to the third world for free (It is right next door to us after all). I use them almost daily in the Pop machines at work. The machines don't give me a hard time. It wasn't until watching an episode of Frasier recently that I even realised that your vending machines would have to take notes. Here in the UK none of them do. The only time you would ever see such a thing is on a niche vending machine that dispensed something of high value, or a change machine. It wasn't till two years ago when Tesco and Asda introduced their self-service checkouts that I had ever used one. Funnily enough, because the UK has so many note designs and BoS recently issued a new (second) set, many of the machines cant remember every possible note. Some of our Scottish Parliament members recently complained because one of the canteen machines wont accept the new £20 note Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just carl Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 WOW! I have never heard anything like that before. What part of the country are you in that nobody wanted to take them? Right here in Illinois. We are not talking about some small, out of the way place, this is a busy, conjested area of the country. Notice I said commuter train. That would indicate a massive commuter system. And those baby dollars are as popular as the plaque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Funnily enough, because the UK has so many note designs and BoS recently issued a new (second) set, many of the machines cant remember every possible note. Some of our Scottish Parliament members recently complained because one of the canteen machines wont accept the new £20 note That happened here with the new $20's, then the new $10's and will again in march when we get the new $5's. Last night I had an issue with a automated checkout that wouldn't take $2's. The ones in Wal-Mart and Meijer do, but the ones in Kroger don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just carl Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Meh, I'm not too worried about saving the government money, we have to be realistic here, it'll never get back into our pockets. If you're interested in what I'm saying you should do some reasearch on the United States paying farmers NOT to farm. That's right, there are farmers that are paid to not grow crops with our tax money, so they can keep the price of the product higher. Amazing how so many people say how to save our government money. Then there are so many, many things like the not to grow policy that waste our money right back. Now don't forget all the other things like subsidized gas and oil for the poor farmers. Massive land tax subsidies. Think of how you hear of the expenses hammers for hundreds of dollars they spend. Now on Feb 19, 2009 we are force by the government to go all digital for TV's. This means if you use an antenna, it is now useless. So our government will send you two coupons to pay for the converters. Where did they get this money? Was it just laying around? So you want to save them money by using baby sized dollars. Yeah, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 It is really petty minded to think "in my opinion the government waste money, so I'm going to force them waste even more" Every other western country lives quite happily with 1 and 2 denomination coins. There was a reason we choose to go that way. A huge bulk of the coins circulating in the UK today are original mints. Notes on the other hand (especially low denomination such as 1) tend to ware out in a matter of months. Ignoring the cost, think of the environmental impact of producing and distributing all those notes constantly. What a senseless waste. Anyone who claims to have gone to Canada or Europe and ended up with "twenty pounds of coins in my pocket" is a bloody idiot, try spending them instead of pulling out a tenner for every transaction. It is very rare that you should ever end up with more than four single denomination coins. You're dollar coins are quite compact anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristofer Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 It is really petty minded to think "in my opinion the government waste money, so I'm going to force them waste even more" Every other western country lives quite happily with 1 and 2 denomination coins. There was a reason we choose to go that way. A huge bulk of the coins circulating in the UK today are original mints. Notes on the other hand (especially low denomination such as 1) tend to ware out in a matter of months. Ignoring the cost, think of the environmental impact of producing and distributing all those notes constantly. What a senseless waste. Anyone who claims to have gone to Canada or Europe and ended up with "twenty pounds of coins in my pocket" is a bloody idiot, try spending them instead of pulling out a tenner for every transaction. It is very rare that you should ever end up with more than four single denomination coins. You're dollar coins are quite compact anyway! It's not that I say "if they'll waste any way, why not force them." My attitude is, if I like the coins, I'll use them. If I don't, then I won't. No matter what our decisions are, the government is still going to waste money. Look at the Fed cutting the rate, what does that do? Print more money! I, in no way, disagree that switching to coins is better for the environment, better for the government, but I won't be false minded in thinking that the money the government saves will come back to me. All of the saving will be pocketed and spent. What I'm saying is, if you use these for any other reason other than convenience, do it for the environment, not because you think the savings will be passed on to you. It won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwing Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Right here in Illinois. We are not talking about some small, out of the way place, this is a busy, conjested area of the country. Notice I said commuter train. That would indicate a massive commuter system. And those baby dollars are as popular as the plaque. Chicago is supposedly a big user of these in their mass transit system, at least that's what I gathered awhile ago from reading this on the web. Of course, I imagine that means the mass transit automated machines probably use and dispense them as frequent users are probably quite fond of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwing Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 That happened here with the new $20's, then the new $10's and will again in march when we get the new $5's. Last night I had an issue with a automated checkout that wouldn't take $2's. The ones in Wal-Mart and Meijer do, but the ones in Kroger don't. Now I am very curious whether my supermarket's automated express lane will accept $2 bills. I didn't know the government invested anything in the $2 bills so they would be machine readable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwing Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 It is really petty minded to think "in my opinion the government waste money, so I'm going to force them waste even more" Every other western country lives quite happily with 1 and 2 denomination coins. There was a reason we choose to go that way. A huge bulk of the coins circulating in the UK today are original mints. Notes on the other hand (especially low denomination such as 1) tend to ware out in a matter of months. Ignoring the cost, think of the environmental impact of producing and distributing all those notes constantly. What a senseless waste. Anyone who claims to have gone to Canada or Europe and ended up with "twenty pounds of coins in my pocket" is a bloody idiot, try spending them instead of pulling out a tenner for every transaction. It is very rare that you should ever end up with more than four single denomination coins. You're dollar coins are quite compact anyway! Funny, I never actually considered the environmental impact of the wasteful $1 bill. Who knows, maybe in 20 years they'll switch over to the coin in the US and all these dollar coins we are collecting now may actually be worth something because the $1 coin of the future will be nothing like the one today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristofer Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Funny, I never actually considered the environmental impact of the wasteful $1 bill. Who knows, maybe in 20 years they'll switch over to the coin in the US and all these dollar coins we are collecting now may actually be worth something because the $1 coin of the future will be nothing like the one today. Bearing that in mind, if these coins become valuable, imagine what paper dollars would be worth. I better start buying up silver notes, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Bearing that in mind, if these coins become valuable, imagine what paper dollars would be worth. I better start buying up silver notes, lol. I have 20 uncirculated sequential £1 notes that I got from the bank the other day. Since they are only issued in Scotland (and are rarely seen circulating, nobody wants them!) most people south of the border and abroad think they are rare. Did actually find a special issue one in a batch last week too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Anyone who claims to have gone to Canada or Europe and ended up with "twenty pounds of coins in my pocket" is a bloody idiot, try spending them instead of pulling out a tenner for every transaction. Agreed. Problem is that in some countries people tend to think of coins as something basically worthless - you get them back in change, and later put them into some piggy bank or a jar. Perfectly right for the country they live in, of course. This attitude seems to be common not only in the US - it was also an issue in Greece, Italy and Slovenia before the cash changeover. Once you start using coins like you use notes, that is no longer a problem. But a tourist from the US visiting a euro or sterling destination, for example, will probably still have this mental image of "coin = low value" in mind, as that is what applies in his/her everyday life back home. Sure, even on a quick trip you will know that the €1 (or £1) coin you have in your pocket is worth roughly $1.50 (or $2) in US currency. But we all have our habits that we are not very likely to change when "away" for a couple of days. For example, I am used to copper-nickel coins having a higher value than brass coins. Duh, that is not the case everywhere in the world. And yet ... Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I have 20 uncirculated sequential £1 notes that I got from the bank the other day. Since they are only issued in Scotland (and are rarely seen circulating, nobody wants them!) most people south of the border and abroad think they are rare. Did actually find a special issue one in a batch last week too. RBS issues them as advertising, that way they keep their name and their logo in your pocket at all times. BOS and CLY gave them up back in 1988 and their fivers are the smallest notes issued. In NI only one of the banks, I think Ulster Bank issues even a £5 note, the rest issue the £10 as their smallest notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Agreed. Problem is that in some countries people tend to think of coins as something basically worthless - you get them back in change, and later put them into some piggy bank or a jar. Perfectly right for the country they live in, of course. This attitude seems to be common not only in the US - it was also an issue in Greece, Italy and Slovenia before the cash changeover. Once you start using coins like you use notes, that is no longer a problem. But a tourist from the US visiting a euro or sterling destination, for example, will probably still have this mental image of "coin = low value" in mind, as that is what applies in his/her everyday life back home. Sure, even on a quick trip you will know that the €1 (or £1) coin you have in your pocket is worth roughly $1.50 (or $2) in US currency. But we all have our habits that we are not very likely to change when "away" for a couple of days. For example, I am used to copper-nickel coins having a higher value than brass coins. Duh, that is not the case everywhere in the world. And yet ... Christian The only time I saved larger denomination coins was in France and Germany, where I saved most of the 100FF and 10DM coins because they were silver. But on one occasion, in Munchen, I spent one of the 1972 10DM coins to the apparent shock of the cashier, who basically suggested I was a fool for spending it. But I am sure she saved the coin from the register that day and I made her day. While in Netherlands I made sure to get rid of the 5fl and 2.5 fl coins at the airport, not a hard task since it is so pricey anyway. But I admit, on my last trip to France I did come home with a baggy full of minor centime coins, same in Ukraine when I came home with a baggy full of kopeikas, and China where I even have some Yuan coins and quite a few paper notes, some of which are only worth less than a cent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 RBS issues them as advertising, that way they keep their name and their logo in your pocket at all times. BOS and CLY gave them up back in 1988 and their fivers are the smallest notes issued. In NI only one of the banks, I think Ulster Bank issues even a £5 note, the rest issue the £10 as their smallest notes. I got a NI five pound note last year, had to look closely at it. It was bright blue and made of plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I got a NI five pound note last year, had to look closely at it. It was bright blue and made of plastic Must have been a Northern Bank fiver, they issued them in polymer back in 2000, and had a Space Shuttle on them. Northern Bank is owned by Danske Bank, a Danish bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwing Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I got a NI five pound note last year, had to look closely at it. It was bright blue and made of plastic A plastic bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 A plastic bill? Yep, not as uncommon as you would imagine. All Australian banknotes since 1988 and New Zealand ones since 1999 have been plastic. In fact they have a little transparent window on the notes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwing Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Yep, not as uncommon as you would imagine. All Australian banknotes since 1988 and New Zealand ones since 1999 have been plastic. In fact they have a little transparent window on the notes too. That sounds like play money.... or the money of the future! Which I guess would be now for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristofer Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 That sounds like play money.... or the money of the future! Which I guess would be now for some. Wow, I can't believe I've never heard of this. I'm glad you guys told me or else I'd be arrested. Clerk: okay, and here's your change. Kris: [very stern look] Quit Joking, give me my change. Clerk: That is your change. News reporter: And earlier today, an inept Amercian freaked out on a clerk today for quote "Giving me some @$%$^#$ kind of monopoly money." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockwalliper Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 A guy at work couldn't get the pop machine to take his dollar bill and asked if I had one to exchange. I handed him a new dollar coin. He examined coin coin for several minutes before he used it to buy his pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwing Posted February 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 A guy at work couldn't get the pop machine to take his dollar bill and asked if I had one to exchange. I handed him a new dollar coin. He examined coin coin for several minutes before he used it to buy his pop. Several minutes??? Did he say anything to you during this time or was it an awkward silence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiho Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I have 20 uncirculated sequential £1 notes that I got from the bank the other day. Since they are only issued in Scotland (and are rarely seen circulating, nobody wants them!) most people south of the border and abroad think they are rare. Did actually find a special issue one in a batch last week too. Back in the 1980's when the United States was printing "web" $1 notes I got a full pack of them from the bank. (I used to get a pack of $1 bills every Friday to search for stars, low serial #s, errors, etc...) I eventually spent them because the web notes were extremely ugly and looked like a bad photocopy. That $100 pack of notes is now worth $2500+. Keep your Scottish notes and say hello to my friends Camera Obscura in Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 1989 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I will never, ever attept to spend one of those dumb things again. For some time I tried to distribute them but now I give up. At a restaurant I left several at the table for a tip. SEVERAL. The waitress said loudly as I walked away from the table, "Sir, you left a bunch of your kids play money on the table". We have commuter trains. I tried to use one there but the conductor said "Hey, see this coin changer? Do you see any slots for those stupid things?" At a Walmart a cashier said "Now what the @%#$#% and I supposed to do with those?" Called her head cashier who said don't you have any real money? I know those are real sir but we just are not set up for them yet. How about using them in about 10 years." One friend of mine also attempted to carry a lot of them. Wore a hole in his pocket so that ended that with him. No, I think I'll pass on the usage of those dumb things. Not stupid coins at all, more like the people you have encountered are stupid. For soem reason here in the UK the £2 is sometimes questioned in cornershops(Kwik-E-Mart style shops) & Petrol stations (Gas stations for you Americans ) and this is mainly due to the fact that they are the places you are most likely to get fake £1 coins. Not accusing them of anything but a local shop near me has a staggering amount of fake ones. The USA seems to be the only country that really has a problem with this, God only knows why, here in the Uk, Canada, Australia, New Zealand & Euroland there has been no problem yet some in the US still can't fathom (sp) out that there is a $1 coin, honestly it really is a better move, could you imagine £1 notes over here now? the £5 notes are in bad enough state as it is, no wonder they stopped minting the £1 notes in 1983 & withdrew them completely in 1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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