henare Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 i missed out ... but since i dont' have a current e.u. address it wouldn't have worked out anyway. i agree that #2 is a fine design with something else ... the australians had a AUD0.50 coin some years ago that was in a similar style (KM 257), but with more design elements ... i would have voted for #5 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Scotland is part of the EU, we ARE the UK. As to the thread. WHY ONE EARTH DID I NOT SEE THIS BEFORE I really would have liked to vote in this. Had I done so, I think number 5 would have got my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Scotland is part of the EU, we ARE the UK. Do the English know about that? As for the design contest, in some European forums a few people asked why, in a euro coin design vote, people from non-euro countries can vote at all. Well, the problem was Slovakia: The country may well join Euroland on 1 January 2009 (will be decided later this year), and in that case it will be among the countries issuing this coin. So it made sense to let people in SK vote too. Then again you can't say, let them participate, and at the same time "exclude" people from other EU-but-not-euro countries. Ah, well, see it the positive way: Not having voted for one of these ho-hum designs is nothing that you should make you angry or sad. And if design #5 wins (which I hope), then you are still in the "winning camp". Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Do the English know about that? Actually, the pessimists from England now claim that we run everything. Since a large number of Scottish Labour MP's vote on domestic English policies while Scottish domestic policies are handled in a separate parliament. It means that labour can effectively force though legalisation on England using votes from Scotland. A situation which is wrong. As for the design contest, in some European forums a few people asked why, in a euro coin design vote, people from non-euro countries can vote at all. Well, the problem was Slovakia: The country may well join Euroland on 1 January 2009 (will be decided later this year), and in that case it will be among the countries issuing this coin. So it made sense to let people in SK vote too. Then again you can't say, let them participate, and at the same time "exclude" people from other EU-but-not-euro countries. Ah, well, see it the positive way: Not having voted for one of these ho-hum designs is nothing that you should make you angry or sad. And if design #5 wins (which I hope), then you are still in the "winning camp". Christian I think it should be open to all EU citizens, after all, with the exception of the UK and Denmark (mabey Sweden) every other EU country HAS to join the Euro as soon as it is possible. Plus there are those of us in the UK that want the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Actually, the pessimists from England now claim that we run everything. Since a large number of Scottish Labour MP's vote on domestic English policies while Scottish domestic policies are handled in a separate parliament. It means that labour can effectively force though legalisation on England using votes from Scotland. A situation which is wrong. I believe that since the SNP cannot get it together and garner the votes necessary for an effective devolution, perhaps England should take the precedent and strike out on her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 The SNP have always abstained from English only policy votes, and have argued for England to have its own parliament. Yet many people still continue to call them an "Anti-English" party. The reality is the SNP as pro-England as they are Pro-Scotland. In any case, if there was another Scottish election tomorrow I put money on it that SNP would gain 8 seats. They where projected to have 8 more than they actually got, and many of those seats where only hundreds away from taking (huge swings to them). The media spend the two days before the election telling everyone how awful and damaging an SNP government in Scotland would be. In reality we are doing great and SNP support in the opinion polls has never been higher. The people now see what a pack of rubbish it all was. Alex Salmond even offered the other party's the chance of another election, and they turned it down because they all know they have more risk of loosing seats than gaining them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted February 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 We have a winner ... http://www.eurodesigncontest.eu/images/result_schema.jpg Seems that design #2 got quite a few votes in the last couple of days. The artist of the winning design is Georgios Stamatopoulos who also designed the Greek €1 and €2 circulation coins. The second best (with regard to the number of votes) was designed by Helmut Andexlinger (Austrian Mint). About 140,000 people participated in the euro design vote. So this will be the coin: The words "Issuing Country" and "E.M.U." will of course be adapted. Oh well, I am not exactly happy about the outcome, but then again, so far I have not even been able to vote in any euro design contest ... Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Nooooohhh well, at least it was my second choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted February 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Nooooohhh well, at least it was my second choice. Seems that #2 may have won primarily due to some kind of chain mail campaign. A few days before the voting ended, quite a few e-mail messages circulated in Greece, and forum messages were posted, about that design being "from a greek person so all greeks should support him" etc. Here http://www.fatsimare.net/profile/forum/viewtopic.php?p=79458 is an example of a post that even mentions the artist's name - even though the names were not supposed to be reveiled until the end of the contest. And with a total of only 141,675 votes cast, such a campaign may actually have been successful ... Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I guess it would have been something like that, to cause such a sway. Most of the top 5 issues in the UK's on-line petition system are things that are entirely made up, and then chain mailed around. Just shows what a bunch of gullible idiots people are here. Still, I cant help but think he took all of 5 seconds to design that coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 So for the efforts of people in a small country with a not well designed coin, the whole EU suffers. You asked for it, you got it, Toyota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Here is a nice visualization (not mine) of the design. I still don't like this "stickman" style but, well ... left: design from the European Commission's website / right: the actual coin, or rather what it will probably look like Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Shiiineeyyy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Do the English know about that? Christian What?!?!? England are part of the EU? First I've heard... Most of us English folk know we are but, unfortunately, many won't admit it! I like the idea of a European Community but not that play-school designed Euro coin... Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted March 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 that play-school designed Euro coin... You're not alone. Hard to tell whether that design would have won without that "Vote Greek" campaign (see post #34), but it seems we are stuck with it. By the way, Lolo posted an updated version of his visualization, with "EMU" in German ("WWU") and an added mintmark; see image above. Still, I wonder how many people know what that abbreviation actually means ... Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Hey Tabbs, don't save any with me in mind please. I think I better stick to the German designed coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted March 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Well, I will certainly get one of these, as I basically collect all coins that are legal tender in the entire currency union. Also, I don't care about what passport a coin designer has, but I may well skip €2 pieces that I find too expensive. (Monaco!) What I may do in this case, however, is limit my "type based" collection to just one of the common 2009 issues, instead of getting all 15 (or 16) versions. People who collect all German mintmarks would have to get even 19 or 20 ... nah, not me. Order preferences for 2009 noted. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted May 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 As for the German version of this coin, the Federal Ministery of Finance has just published some details about the issue. http://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/nn_5...0521__PM21.html So yes, instead of "EMU" it will say "WWU". As far as I can tell, hardly anybody in Germany is familiar with that abbreviation. The text should have said "Wirtschafts- und Währungsunion" IMO or, if you want/need an abbreviation, "EWWU" at least. Oh well, this will not be the first "mystery coin" in history. The date of issue will be 1 Jan 2009. Since that is a holiday, the pieces will actually be issued as from Friday 2 January ... Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Please put me on your list! I'll take any issue of it, though German or Irish would be preferential! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabbs Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 No problem. (If I cannot get hold of any, I will simply hammer and scratch you one. ) Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sisu Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 ...Order preferences for 2009 noted. Christian Please put one aside for me if possible and I will try to do the same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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