Scottishmoney Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Grivna 1726 It is hard to just doff this off as a fake, but the lettering in Tsena and Grivna seems out of place, not lined up etc. The seller even gives an Uzdennikov reference, but when I look this up in Uzdennikov it doesn't quite match with the lettering. In fact I don't see a match with any of the illustrations in Uzd. I saw fakes of these in Russia, even in the USSR they were faking these. Other opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Grivna 1726 It is hard to just doff this off as a fake, but the lettering in Tsena and Grivna seems out of place, not lined up etc. The seller even gives an Uzdennikov reference, but when I look this up in Uzdennikov it doesn't quite match with the lettering. In fact I don't see a match with any of the illustrations in Uzd. I saw fakes of these in Russia, even in the USSR they were faking these. Other opinions? The lettering looks crude, well below what a novodel ought to look like. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Grivna 1726 It is hard to just doff this off as a fake, but the lettering in Tsena and Grivna seems out of place, not lined up etc. The seller even gives an Uzdennikov reference, but when I look this up in Uzdennikov it doesn't quite match with the lettering. In fact I don't see a match with any of the illustrations in Uzd. I saw fakes of these in Russia, even in the USSR they were faking these. Other opinions? Most of the Russian plate money that appears on the market is fake. This example does not inspire confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 might make a nice paperweight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussulo Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Disclaimer: I don't collect Russian coins, and don't know much about them. However to me the toning doesn't look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin43160 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 eh looks fake to me. but i guess if some one trys to break into ur house you could throw it at em!! then whoever has a stamp the like on there head is ur robber!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Shaver Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hi .. Just a note from an avid observer.. There is a coin on German Ebay that could be a twin. (what a coincidence to have two such rare coins appear at once) The Gorny catalogue has a beautiful example of a real one. Makes the Ebay coins look like cheap fakes. Could they be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hi .. Just a note from an avid observer.. There is a coin on German Ebay that could be a twin. (what a coincidence to have two such rare coins appear at once) The Gorny catalogue has a beautiful example of a real one. Makes the Ebay coins look like cheap fakes. Could they be ? Could they be fakes? Yes, of course they could, and I think that they probably are. Genuine novodels of the plate money are very scarce today, but are still easier to find than originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted October 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Closed at $760, obviously someone thinks they got a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And986 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I tried to warn the buyer... It's just a peace of copper. $3-4 is the value. E-bay has ignored my complain as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 China should just make a flood amount of them so that people realize that counterfeits are too common And yes, they should be made in lead too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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