Scottishmoney Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 These things are notoriously difficult to find in collectible grades, this example has verdigris but all the devices are intact and not worn off, which makes this quite unusual for these pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Agreed! The cow and the chicken are typically the most worn. The obverse usually look like boobs with a crown. .. actually yours is the 1 para, 3 Dengi, which is 1 1/2 kopecks. The big brother is the 2 para, 3 kopeck. alas, i have no cows or chickens to be proud of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Can you provide me the exact weight of yours Sadagura coins? I have almost done a study about these coins (target is 100 pieces). I need data for 8 or 9 more coins to finish it. BTW: Superb coin, Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Orc Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Lovely looking coin, again it is a new one for me so many thanks De Orc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 That is a rather tough coin to obtain! Thanks for showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Banivechi, the above 2 Para/3 K is 17.28 grams. What is the range? I also have a Para/3 dengi, i do not have access to today, but i will weigh it next week for you, if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted April 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Sadly all I have is a marginally inaccurate postal scale at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 The weight range of my coins of 2 Para - 3 kopeks is from 14.5 to 20.80 grams, and for Para - 3 dengi is from 8.69 to 12.62 grams. Yours is in the middle. If you want to see my coins, visit my site (link in my signature) and go to "Sadagura" section. Thank you for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timofei Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 This is the latest addition to my collection. This is common but RB (red-brown) para. Weight is 12.22 gr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Wow, I hate to be bested, but that is a very nice coin. Mine was tough enough to find, lots of these are in snarfy condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 This is the latest addition to my collection. This is common but RB (red-brown) para. Weight is 12.22 gr Niiiice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Thanks for showing Timofei! By the way, I must assume that the edge of the coin is very hot? Would it be possible if you can take a photo of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timofei Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Thanks for showing Timofei! By the way, I must assume that the edge of the coin is very hot? Would it be possible if you can take a photo of it? I will try the edge, but I am not so good at taking pictures of edges. BTW, the edge is quite smooth. Another good example of excelent Para is the lot #14844 sold at Heritage last year - that was NGS MS63 BN coin, you can look at the image of that nice coin in Heritage auction database. To my mind the bigger coin - 2 para is much harder to find in a decent condition and almost impossible in mint state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 This is the latest addition to my collection. This is common but RB (red-brown) para. Weight is 12.22 gr Congratulations! That is an absolutely amazing example. These coins almost always come in horrid condition. Examples like yours are few and far between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 This is the latest addition to my collection. This is common but RB (red-brown) para. Weight is 12.22 gr Beautiful. Now THAT is museum quality. I especially love the toning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 This is the latest addition to my collection. This is common but RB (red-brown) para. Weight is 12.22 gr Wow ... so THAT's what they are supposed to look like. Very nice coin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Is it bronze or copper? Looks like copper, but as I understand most were made from the bronze cannons that’s why they wore out so. I think only a small quantity was made of copper, and probably the novodels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 This is a specimen of the 1 Para/3 Dengi coin from 1772. Sorry if the image is slightly blurry. Moldavia & Wallachia 1 Para/3Dengi 1772 (Large Crown Var.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 This is a specimen of the 1 Para/3 Dengi coin from 1772. Sorry if the image is slight blurry. Moldavia & Wallachia 1 Para/3Dengi 1772 (Large Crown Var.) Another exceptionally nicely detailed and high grade coin from a series almost always found in miserable condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Agreed! The cow and the chicken are typically the most worn. The obverse usually look like boobs with a crown. .. actually yours is the 1 para, 3 Dengi, which is 1 1/2 kopecks. The big brother is the 2 para, 3 kopeck. alas, i have no cows or chickens to be proud of! Boobs with a crown, thats hilarious . In any case, I'd say your specimen wins over mine. Moldavia & Wallachia 2 Para/ 3 Kopeck 1772 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Boobs with a crown, thats hilarious. In any case, I'd say your specimen wins over mine. Moldavia & Wallachia 2 Para/ 3 Kopeck 1772 I had a difficult childhood. I think that is what Freud would have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 A nice one from my collection: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 The obverse usually look like boobs with a crown. hahahahahahaha!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 A nice one from my collection: VERY nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 A nice one from my collection: Very nice! Other than the weak strike between 8-11 o'clock on the obverse side, this is an excellent specimen. The detail on the shields is extraordinary. Usually the detail in the center is very weak to non-existant. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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