RW Julian Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Anyone else have problems with this piece? http://cgi.ebay.com/RUSSIAN-SIBERIAN-COIN-...1QQcmdZViewItem The following is a known genuine coin and there are several differences between it and the eBay specimen: RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 The ebay one was made in 2006 and artificially toned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldman Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 The ebay one was made in 2006 and artificially toned. Not sure about 2006 but know for sure that they are produced in St. Petersburg for collectors in decent quantities. 10 kopeks have "H" to indicate the Novodel The Oldman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisenish Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Not sure about 2006 but know for sure that they are produced in St. Petersburg for collectors in decent quantities. 10 kopeks have "H" to indicate the Novodel The Oldman This piece has also "H" to indicate the novodel - see at 7 o'clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldman Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 This piece has also "H" to indicate the novodel - see at 7 o'clock You're right - I missed that. So, it should cost about $10-15 and only if someone REALLY wants it The Oldman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 This piece has also "H" to indicate the novodel - see at 7 o'clock Thanks. I missed this the first time around! RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldman Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 These "novodels" are produced by the Petropavlovsk fortress (St Petersburg mint) and can be found on numerous small markets around the city for US$10-15. As I said above, 10 kopeks coin has an "H" embedded below EII and clearly visible. The Oldman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 These "novodels" are produced by the Petropavlovsk fortress (St Petersburg mint) and can be found on numerous small markets around the city for US$10-15. As I said above, 10 kopeks coin has an "H" embedded below EII and clearly visible. The Oldman Quick! Flood the market with such coins and let the buyers know that "novodels" are actually quite cheap! I personally don't mind such copies if they are available at that price but NOT for what is there on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldman Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Quick! Flood the market with such coins and let the buyers know that "novodels" are actually quite cheap! I personally don't mind such copies if they are available at that price but NOT for what is there on the net. The seller most likely has no idea what he's selling. ...or pretending ? The Oldman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Oh please, the same seller tried to and DID sell a copy 1730 pattern coin with the floral design and that sold very high. And it was a BAD copy. There was no way I could have warn the buyers as the listings are private. Well usually if a listing is private, you know what it could mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldman Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Oh please, the same seller tried to and DID sell a copy 1730 pattern coin with the floral design and that sold very high. And it was a BAD copy. There was no way I could have warn the buyers as the listings are private. Well usually if a listing is private, you know what it could mean. I agree that he knows exactly what he's doing. I can not agree that ALL private listings mean more just private listings I myself found several good reasons to list privately: 1) if you want true competition: people know each other and would not want to overbid friends etc. If a listing is private nobody sees the bidders' identity and they can bid freely 2) to protect buyer/seller identity: some buyers would love to have their IDs hidden..as well as sellers 3) sellers do not want public to see what exactly they are selling. Of course , this can be abused (and we see it a lot) but it is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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