PJGS Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'm a new to this world of numismatics, so my knowledge is fairly small. I'm interested in this coin but I'm afraid there's a lot of fakes out there so all help is welcomed. The seller says it weights 27gr and is 39mm and he garantees the autheticity of this coin. As you can see it is chopmarked, but it could be fake marks. Do you think this coin is real?. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDJMSP Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 I think you're gonna get the same answers you did elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJGS Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotten Rodney Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 You mean they get to ask "Elsewhere" first? . . . .. I thought we were "Elsewhere". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlueke Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 I'm a new to this world of numismatics, so my knowledge is fairly small. I'm interested in this coin but I'm afraid there's a lot of fakes out there so all help is welcomed. The seller says it weights 27gr and is 39mm and he garantees the autheticity of this coin. As you can see it is chopmarked, but it could be fake marks. Do you think this coin is real?. Thanks. Does the seller have a regular store or business or a long history? Or, is the seller from China and on ebay for the pas three weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDJMSP Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 You mean they get to ask "Elsewhere" first? . . . .. I thought we were "Elsewhere". Now Rodney, I do get around a bit ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJGS Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Does the seller have a regular store or business or a long history? Or, is the seller from China and on ebay for the pas three weeks? He is from germany and feedback is well above 800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hello all, How do you explain this swastika mark ? Why on King Charles IV ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Swastika mark was probably made a long time ago by some Tibetian monks but it is in reverse. I wouldn't be suprised if someone came up with the idea of reversing it and make it as a chopmark a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDJMSP Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 The chop marks have been placed on the coin to misdirect attention away from the coin itself. Look at the coin, all those raised marks and bumps on the surface - it's a cast fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echizento Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 The coin doesn't look right at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28Plain Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Swastika mark was probably made a long time ago by some Tibetian monks but it is in reverse. I wouldn't be suprised if someone came up with the idea of reversing it and make it as a chopmark a long time ago. I've seen the same swastika chopmark on 8 Reale coins I've had before. I had always assumed it was done in India since it appeared along with a Sanskrit chop mark or two more than once on coins I owned, but Tibet is another possibility that had not ocurred to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28Plain Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 The coin doesn't look right at all. Looks good to me. I'd like to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJGS Posted December 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 as far as I know, the swastika is a sacred symbol in Hinduism and Buddhism. It isn't a exclusive symbol of the nazi, although that's what ppl think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJGS Posted December 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 The chop marks have been placed on the coin to misdirect attention away from the coin itself. Look at the coin, all those raised marks and bumps on the surface - it's a cast fake. Couldn't those bumps be due to the hammering made to chopmark the other side of the coin?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28Plain Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 as far as I know, the swastika is a sacred symbol in Hinduism and Buddhism.It isn't a exclusive symbol of the nazi, although that's what ppl think. True, and the same mark was used by American indians as well. I've seen it on old textiles by southwestern tribes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Couldn't those bumps be due to the hammering made to chopmark the other side of the coin?. assuming the dies are coin-alligned, the raised marks do not correspond too well with the chop marks on the opposite side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Here's a chopmarked Pillar Dollar from 1807 (8 reales, I believe). It is a genuine coin and has a considerable number of chopmarks. On the reverse on the column to the left you can see a "swastika" mark near the top of the column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfo143 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I'm a new to this world of numismatics, so my knowledge is fairly small. I'm interested in this coin but I'm afraid there's a lot of fakes out there so all help is welcomed. The seller says it weights 27gr and is 39mm and he garantees the autheticity of this coin. As you can see it is chopmarked, but it could be fake marks. Do you think this coin is real?. Thanks. This coin is a bad fake...the tipography is very bad. Best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarotta Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Here is one of mine. I have four others from different years, including a Mexican republic peso. I thought of catloguing the chopmarks but never did. (Image removed 24Sept2010 - mem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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