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Yesterday I got some French coins I purchased from a board member, and the I compared the 1867 5-Franc coin to the one I bought in Rome about 10 years ago. The one from Rome has a reeded edge but the one I got yesterday had a lettered edge, otherwise they are identical. Is this a known variety? Why the difference? Which one is rarer? Any help would be appreciated!

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If you have the ability to electronically weigh the coins try and see wheater the reeded edge coin does not reflect the weight of copper with silverplating

I have a non existent silver 100 FF Napoleon III with reeded edges

(copper with silverplating ) and was informed by a french forum they are copies made in England

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I will have to check when I get home, but as I recall the diameter was identical to the lettered edge coin, though it seemed somewhat thicker. I don't really have a way to weigh it. Were there any later restrikes of this coin?

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In my Gadoury catalogue "Monnaies Francaises 1789-2003" at page 212 the 5 Francs - Second Empire , position 739 all years 1861-1870 and all Mintmarks :A, BB, and E (this one only for 1861 and 1867) are presented:

"Argent 900, 25g, 37 mm Tranche en relief: DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE". Graveur: Desire-Albert Barre.

Frappe totale : 50,094,449 (15 pieces - dies)

Only 1867E exist with PLAIN edge (not reeded) as essai (probe), at a price of 2000 euro, but is not this case.

Looking at all 5 Francs coins, there are only with lettered edges. No one with reeded edge and no restrikes. It must be a fake...

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In my Gadoury catalogue "Monnaies Francaises 1789-2003" at page 212 the 5 Francs - Second Empire , position 739 all years 1861-1870 and all Mintmarks :A, BB, and E (this one only for 1861 and 1867) are presented:

"Argent 900, 25g, 37 mm Tranche en relief: DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE". Graveur: Desire-Albert Barre.

Frappe totale : 50,094,449 (15 pieces - dies)

Only 1867E exist with PLAIN edge (not reeded) as essai (probe), at a price of 2000 euro, but is not this case.

Looking at all 5 Francs coins, there are only with lettered edges. No one with reeded edge and no restrikes. It must be a fake...

 

I also bought another 1874 5-franc with a reeded edge from this board member which must also be fake. Looks like I will be forced to melt them.

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I also bought another 1874 5-franc with a reeded edge from this board member which must also be fake. Looks like I will be forced to melt them.

 

As far as I know there are only edges with the lettres in relief and as a variety incuse lettres engraved in the edge

All reeded edges are copies as far as I know and my copy is copper (not even silver )

but since a silver 100 FF does not exist I knew I was buying a copy

The only restrikes I know off are post 1906 gold 20 franks and modern commems from Monnaie de Paris

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