LostDutchman Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 picked this guy up today... my book dosen't go back this far... I don't usually deal with world stuff... but I have been seing some pretty cool stuff lately. thanks for any help anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpnyc Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 I've just started with this stuff so I could be wrong but.... Looks like its supposed to be this type: ANGLO-SAXON, Kings of All England, Edward the Confessor (1042-1066) Silver Penny. Hammer cross type (minted 1059-1062). Hastings mint; Wulfric, moneyer. Obv: +EADPAR RD RE, crowned bust right; sceptre before. Rev: +PVLFRIC ON HAESTI, voided long cross with pellet in center. I say "supposed to be" because yours kind of has a cast look to it, not hammered, but for all I know that all look like that (never seen one in person). Maybe someone with more expertise can give you a more solid opinion as to authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted June 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 I had another local dealer stop by today and he deals in world coins, I asked his if he thought it was authentic and he said he throught that it was legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charon Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Doesn't look 'right' to me either but hard to tell from an image. If authentic, it is a more difficult monarch to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ætheling Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I haven't looked in my book, but Edward the Confessor coins are quite prolific (along with Canute's and Æthelred II issues), so it's unlikely to be a dud. I think the surfaces are just a bit fuzzy due to it being buried probably for many centuries (waterworn being the thought that comes to mind). Although i can see where the others are coming from. Hastings mint nonetheless, ironic me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie582 Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 There are a lot of 'copies' coming out of Austria just now. Some people will 'age' them, bend them, bury them in horse manure, etc just to make a dishonest buck. I couldn't voice an opinion on your coin, but it pays to be very wary with hammered. (strange wear - only in the quadrants?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostDutchman Posted June 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 This coin came out of a large world coin collection that I have been buying parts of lately... The gentleman who put it together passed away 15 years ago... so this coin has been in that collection for at least 15 years... if that means anything for it being a modern copy or not I have no idea. I don't know when copies came out... also after looking at this coin again... it's pretty thin..and has a slight bend in it... thanks again for the oppinions guys! I learn more and more about this stuff every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie582 Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I should imagine that if the provenance goes back 15 years, you'ld be pretty safe in assuming it's kosha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustchaser Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I should imagine that if the provenance goes back 15 years, you'ld be pretty safe in assuming it's kosha! Oh, yeah...a 15 year provenance on a millenium old coin should be plenty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie582 Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 With the latest con artists around, I'd say that 15 years is worth a millenium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 I'm not an expert but it doesn't look right to me. Too round. Most hammered I see are not that round and so perfectly centered. Nor do I see them with what almost looks like a raised rim all the way around the coin. Most look like wafers and have thin tapered edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ætheling Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 I'm not an expert but it doesn't look right to me. Too round. Most hammered I see are not that round and so perfectly centered. Nor do I see them with what almost looks like a raised rim all the way around the coin. Most look like wafers and have thin tapered edges. All those points you raised are fairly typical of coins from that era. Here's a Canute penny struck in the 1020s/30s to compare it with; Coin quality was very high from the 970s until around 1080, it began deteriorating slowly as the century drew to a close, the early 12th century saw it deteriorate rapidly, the stuff produced in the mid-12th century is probably the lowest quality coinage produced in England, the coinage remained pretty poor until the 1279 recoinage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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