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Quite nice, looks more MS62 than AU58 to me.

 

Reminds me a lot of thalers from Bern Switzerland. Must be the bear.

I do agree with you, as it looks mint state to me also. I've lost a lot of respect in TPGS, for gradeing 16th to 19th century German coins. I've gotten to the point that I will not send in any coins to PCGS or NGC. I can spot a fake when I see one, but I did like the protection that the slab gives.I now use Air Tight holders for all my coins. The only problem is finding a holder to put my larger Thalers of 70mm and larger in.

This Thaler has a minage of 10,000. It is what is called a mining Thaler. The crossed hammers on the rev. is how you tell its a mining Thaler. From my German States collection.

I got my 1880-cc NGC MS65, and an 1885-cc NGC MS65 and also an 1878-cc NGC MS-65 DPL. All Morgans