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  1. I, too, know nothing about the box. But what I know for sure: the banknote is fake! 5 Million CGU in 1930! The highest note idated 1930 was 500 GCU!. Erwin
  2. The picture you give is not very clear, but I can say the following: This is clearly Chinese. Not Japanese. 奏辦湖廣公債票 (in modern characters it would be written as 奏办湖广票) 湖 = hú refers to 湖南 (Húnán Province) 廣 =guǎng refers to 廣東 (Guǎngdōng Province) 公债 = public debt, 公債票 = bond. = Húnán - Bond, or Bond issued by the provinces of Húnán and Guǎngdōng. The amount is 100 Liang (in English usually called “Tael”), It is expressively said that the silver standard to which the 100 Liang refer is the so-called Kùpíng silver standard. The bond bears a date: 15.5. first year of Xuāntǒng, this is1.5.1909. The red square seal is written in old seal script. I can read the characters: 湖廣官錢總局之圖章 = seal of the official money bureau of Húnán and Guǎngdōng. Erwin
  3. yes, this is really practice money. There are two different types of practice money. One type ist just for practicing counting money. They do not look like foreign paper money. Many banks have practice money of their ow. About 15 years ago I personally saw bank people who were trained to count banknotes very fast. Amother type of practice money look like real notes. I happen to have a few of such notes (Deutsch mark, British Pound, US Dollars, etc.). They are used to practice changing money (Renminbi to US $ and vice versa, for instance). Erwin
  4. If it is lithographed it is fake. If it is not lithographed, it may be fake. The overall impression -without having the note in my hands- lets me think this is a modern fake produced to deceive the collector. Erwin
  5. This is an unissued remainder (date not filled in, no serial no., no seals) of a 3000 Wen or 3000 Cash note,to be issued in Republican times by a private company called Dejuxiang. This company was located in Jimo, Shandong Province. The notes were printed in Yantai (also called Chefoo), by a printing firm called Donghuayu. A 4000 Wen note also exists.
  6. This note is genuine, but not very rare. Binjiang ("Pinkiang") is the same city as Haerbin (Harbin). In my 12 volume catalog on Chinese emergency notes 1911-1949 the issuer is BIN-0040. The note was printed by Molin printing factory in Binjiang/Haerbin. Erwin
  7. In my opinion all three notes are fakes... In China these fakes cost one US $ a piece...if genuine they cost hundreds of dollars each...At the coin show in Valkenburg, Holland, I saw thick bundles of these...some people there sold these notes as fakes, others said, they don't know, can't guarantee... and some people said, they are 100% genuine. Erwin
  8. In my opinion these two are fake notes. For instance the 1 yuan note: at botton you find the Chinese date, and some of the characters are not very complete, the best example is the fourth character from right, 國, the upper left corner of this character is "open". The same default shows the 3rd character from right, 民. Also the other note has some flaws, mainly in the design of the pavilion at left. The fake Chinese notes are becoming better and better, there exist now fakes you cannot recognise as such from a scan. Even if you have the note in your hand, you often are in doubt... Erwin
  9. There exist many more types of checks etc of this "Bank of Prosperity, in USA as well as in New Zwealand. One example you can senn here: http://expreshletters.blogspot.de/2012/05/bank-of-prosperity-1906.html Erwin
  10. They are P.S425 (South Russia), but someone has altered "10.000" to "100.000". Erwin
  11. This note is rare, but not very rare. Sometimes the note can be found in auctions. One piece –much better looking than yours, but repaired- was in an auction of Cortrie, Germany, Dec. 2010. Starting price 1600 Euros. I believe the piece did not sell. The same piece was in another auction of Cortrie, Oct. 2012, starting price 900 €. Another picture of the note you may find here: http://www.collectweb.nl/item/51938/5814 There is a book on the history of the bank: “Die Rigaer Börsenbank 1864-1914…..”. Issued in 1914 by the Börsenbank itself, commemorating 50 years of the bank. I do not have this book as –although a dealer in worldbanknotes- I myself collect only Chinese notes. This book is written in German, and right now happens to be available at AbeBooks.de Erwin
  12. A nice note with horses and pigs on front is Peru P.S381, Banco de Tacna, 1870's issue, 1/2 Sol. I have no note at hand, but you can see a picture here: http://www.banknote.ws/COLLECTION/countries/AME/PER/PERS0381.htm Erwin
  13. 5 Euro notes (ant other denomintions) without hologram are sometimes offered on ebay. In most, if not all cases, however, the hologram had been removed, either mechanically or chemically. I am not a collector of Euro notes but I understand that collectors are reluctant to pay a substantial premium on notes without hologram, because it is extremely difficult to know whether the hologram was originally missing or later removed. Erwin
  14. The Syrian 2000 pound note with Assad is a fake! Such a note was never issued... Erwin
  15. Your note is monochrome, brownish, but it should be dark violet (or dark purple? my English is not very good and I do not know the difference between purple and violet), with a very light blue underprint. You can see a picture of the real note under www.banknote.ws (China - Peoples Republic, P.812) http://www.banknote.ws/COLLECTION/countries/ASI/CIN/CIN0812.htm Erwin
  16. yes, this is a modern fake, produced to make some money...90% of modern Chinese fake notes are produced by one single person. Erwin
  17. I think it's genuine. I have compared the picture with the one in my collection, it looks absoluetely the same, only the colors are a little weak. But this is probably due to the age of the note or due to the scan. However, to be 100% sure, I would need to have the note in my hands... Erwin
  18. Well, I want to buy all I do not have....(the one pictured I do not have) Maybe you have a list? Please contact me at Pornpattana.Beyer@yahoo.de Erwin Beyer, Germany
  19. The Somali-Note is a fantasy piece! I understand these notes were produced in Canada. At first many of these notes appeared on the market, all unc. of course, and now the producer of the note has issued some specimens... Erwin
  20. Hello Paul, This is a 1 yuan note, issued in a military (anti-Japanes) base called Shenfu Base (神府), situated in the north of Shaanxi (=Shensi) province. The name Shenfu is a combination of the first syllables of Shenmu (神木) and Fugu (府谷). The note was issued in 1936, during the anti-Japanese war, and circulated only in the "special district of Shenfu" (神府特區). The Shenfu Base was founded in 1934 and the "sowjet government" was established. A whole series of these notes was issued: 5 Fen, 1 Jiao, 5 Jiao and 1 Yuan. The notes ceased to circulate in 1937 when the Shenfu Base became a part of the greater Shaan-Gan-Ning Special Zone (陝甘寧特區). The title of the note reads 神府特區抗日人民華革委員會銀行 (shenfu tequ kangri renmin huage weiyuanhui yinhang) which I will try to translate (I know my English is not perfect): Bank of Peoples Committee of the Anti-Japanese Aggression. The four characters at bottom read 流通紙券 (liutong zhiquan) = circulating paper note. Erwin
  21. @Scottish money: the Kosovo overprints on Macedonian notes were produced by a dealer in Croatia. I know him personally... These overprinted notes never circulated, the overprints were only made to make some money, and are pure phantasy notes Erwin
  22. These Nagorno-Karabakh notes were produced by a clever dealer to make some money...the Armenian government launched a protest and I heard that this dealer is no longer allowed to advertise for them on his website. These "notes" are mere phantasy notes, they were produced only for collectors. In Nagorny-Karabakh only thge normal Armenian money is circulating. Erwin
  23. This is a circulating note of the Peoples Bank of the West Yunnan Liberated Area. Notes circulated in 1949 and 1950. In my collection I have the complete set, 1,2,5 jiao and 1,5 yuan. (1 J. orange, 2 J. Blue, 5 J. red, 1 y. purple, vertical format, 5 y. light green, nearly yellow) The expression 流通券 (liu tong quan) simply means „circulating note“, and was used to indicate that these notes could be used to pay debts, taxes etc. as real money. On the note shown here there are two red square seals with some characters in seal script. The right one reads 滇西解放區人民銀行董事長 (dianxi jiefangqu renminzinhang dongshizhang) = West Yunnan Litberated Area Peoples Bank- chairman of the board, the left one reads 滇西解放區人民銀行總經理 (dianxi jiefangqu renminyinhang zongjingli) = West Yunnan Liberated Area People’s Bank – general manager. The expression半 開 (bankai) refers to the silver standard as used in Yunnan. The expression “bankai” also occurs on several other notes issued by the province of Yunnan. In English there does not exist any equivalent expression, so it might be best to translate it as “bankai silver standard”. Erwin
  24. The first note is a 10 yuan note, issued by the Monetary Bureau of Hulunbeier in 1919. This institution was founded in Dec. 1917, a part of the necessary money came from the city of Hulunbeier, which is now called Hailaer, another part of the money came from private investors. Before the Monetary Bureau of Hulunbeier issued its notes mostly Russian ruble notes were used in Hulunbeier (situated in Inner Mongolia), but due to the October Revolution in Russia there was a shortage of ruble notes. So these notes were issued. The notes were printed by a well known factory in Binjiang, which is just another name for Haerbin (capital of Heilongjiang province). The name of the printer is Molintang. The 2nd note is a 5 yuan note dated 1908. It was issued by a small commercial bank, the Xin-yi Savings Bank. The note could be used (only) in Tianjin. (the note also exists with Shanghai and Hankou) Both notes are not scarce. Erwin
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